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    Default Ancient book of psalms found in Irish bog

    Sorry, if this has been posted before.

    I did a search and couldn't find anything about it and only heard of this finding today.

    Was discovered in 2006


    Ancient book of psalms found in Irish bog

    Worker uncovers approximately 20-page book dated to the years 800-1000
    DUBLIN, Ireland - Irish archaeologists Tuesday heralded the discovery of an ancient book of psalms by a construction worker who spotted something while driving the shovel of his backhoe into a bog.

    The approximately 20-page book has been dated to the years 800-1000. Trinity College manuscripts expert Bernard Meehan said it was the first discovery of an Irish early medieval document in two centuries.
    "This is really a miracle find," said Pat Wallace, director of the National Museum of Ireland, which has the book stored in refrigeration and facing years of painstaking analysis before being put on public display.


    "There's two sets of odds that make this discovery really way out. First of all, it's unlikely that something this fragile could survive buried in a bog at all, and then for it to be unearthed and spotted before it was destroyed is incalculably more amazing."

    He said an engineer was digging up bogland last week to create commercial potting soil somewhere in Ireland's midlands when, "just beyond the bucket of his bulldozer, he spotted something." Wallace would not specify where the book was found because a team of archaeologists is still exploring the site.
    "The owner of the bog has had dealings with us in past and is very much in favor of archaeological discovery and reporting it," Wallace said.

    Crucially, he said, the bog owner covered up the book with damp soil. Had it been left exposed overnight, he said, "it could have dried out and just vanished, blown away."

    The book was found open to a page describing, in Latin script, Psalm 83, in which God hears complaints of other nations' attempts to wipe out the name of Israel.

    Wallace said several experts spent Tuesday analyzing only that page — the number of letters on each line, lines on each page, size of page — and the book's binding and cover, which he described as "leather velum, very thick wallet in appearance."

    It could take months of study, he said, just to identify the safest way to pry open the pages without damaging or destroying them. He ruled out the use of X-rays to investigate without moving the pages.
    Ireland already has several other holy books from the early medieval period, including the ornately illustrated Book of Kells, which has been on display at Trinity College in Dublin since the 19th century.

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    I was amazed to find this video...on the day the story aired on CNN.


    YouTube - Ancient Book of Psalms unearthed - 2006.mpg


    The day the news aired on CNN…the story following it’s announcement is with Jerry Jenkins,( co-author with Tim LaHaye in the Left Behind Series)

    and Joel Rosenberg, on End time prophecy..….

    newscaster calls it a rather “eerie
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    Oops this was probably old news....new news to me anyways lol

    I looked to see if it had been debunked and found this:

    The Psalm 83 Revealing; Coincidence or Providence
    By Bill Salus

    The summer of 2006 appears to have been a prophetically eventful period. While the Israelis were fending off Hezbollah, the Irish found a forgotten Psalm 83 prophecy buried under some bog soil.

    Psalm 83 predicts the formation of a ten member Arab confederacy that someday seeks to wipe Israel off the map. Coincidentally, Hezbollah appears to be listed among the Psalm 83 confederates as the “inhabitants of Tyre”. Tyre is located in Lebanon and has become infiltrated by the Hezbollah terrorist organization.

    That summer I was 75% completed with my book Isralestine, of which Psalm 83 is the central theme. I had become enamored with the Psalm 83 prophecy after the events of September 11, 2001. My goal was to find out what the Bible had to say about the Arab – Israeli conflict and terrorism, its ugly bi-product. I was seeking to make prophetic sense out of the decades of Mideast chaos coupled with the catastrophic events of September 11th. In the midst of my research I discovered Psalm 83.

    Several years later I discovered that the Psalm had surfaced in Ireland at the same time Hezbollah was warring against Israel and I was penning Isralestine. In retrospect it appears that the past, present and future became infused together during that eventful summer. Psalm 83 made front page headlines worldwide at that time. Was God attempting to tell humanity something through these above correlating coincidental events?

    Past

    July 26, 2006: In what was heralded as the Irish equivalent to the “Dead Sea Scrolls”, numerous notable newspapers reported that Psalm 83 had been discovered in Irish bog soil. Preserved and opened in place, this parchment potentially represents a seedling planted in the past designed to be uncovered at the opportune time. Apparently that was the summer of 2006.

    I find it curious that, although there are 150 Psalms, 1189 chapters, and 31,173 verses in the Bible, this one Psalm with a mere 18 passages was discovered preserved and open in place. It simply required a little careful handling and some skilled dusting off in order to read its prophetically timely contents. Other Psalms were found alongside at the time, however, they were severely fragmented and scarcely salvageable.

    Analysts were shocked that this ancient parchment buried for over 800 plus years under heavily weathered bog soil was virtually unblemished. Additionally, they were astonished that the manuscript wasn’t destroyed during the time of discovery. This wasn’t a skilled carefully orchestrated archaeological dig, rather a bulldozer trying to clear some landmass.

    Present
    July 12 - August 14, 2006: Israel and Hezbollah, opponents of each other in the Psalm 83 prophecy, were involved in a 34 day conflict. The Hezbollah-Israeli conflict was a turning point for Israel. Single handily Hezbollah humiliated Israel, something the Arabs failed to do in their 1948, 1967, and 1973 conventionally fought wars against the Jewish State. In so doing, Hezbollah, a terrorist group turned political party, elevated the Palestinian plight and reinvigorated Pan Arab Nationalism in favor of it.
    The Palestinians appear to be listed in first position among the ten-member confederacy of Psalm 83. They seem to be identified as the “tents of Edom” in Psalm 83:6. Being identified in a “tents of” condition probably identifies them as the "Palestinian refugees". Biblically, a "tents of" condition often represents an ethnicity dwelling as refugees. Thus, the plight of the Palestinian refugees today is the likely modus operandi of the Arab confederacy. Psalm 83:4 declares the confederacy’s intention to destroy the Jewish State and Psalm 83:12 describes their intent to form a final Arab State called Palestine.

    Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim group, has emboldened and united Israel’s enemies. Hezbollah’s successes in the summer of 2006 have served to unite predominantly Sunni populations, like Hamas and Syria, with Shiites like, Iran and Hezbollah. Such unifications are additionally beginning to erode longstanding divisions between Persians and Arabs.
    Perhaps the Lord is telling eschatologists today to keep a close watch on Hezbollah-centered Mideast events. Hezbollah military actions could easily initiate the Psalm 83 event.


    Future
    July 26, 2006: As stated above, Isralestine, a book detailing the prophetic significance of Psalm 83 was being penned for future publication at the time of the discovery of the Psalm 83 parchment in Ireland. It is now available and has caused many eschatologists to rethink their end time’s models.

    Historically many Rabbis have taught that “Coincidence” is not a kosher word. When we consider the above correlating summer of 2006 events and their seeming past, present, and future infusion, should they be classified as coincidental or providential? Should eschatologists be rethinking the time placement of Psalm 83? Is it possible that the summer of 2006 was a prophetically relevant season?

    After all, Amos 3:7 declares; Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets. Is it possible the Lord used the summer of 2006 to warn the world that the Psalm 83 prophecy is about to find final fulfillment?


    PROPHECY DEPOT: The Psalm 83 Revealing; Coincidence or Providence


    Praise God!!
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    This topic has indeed been dealt with on this site before, sis; first in May 2008 and then at more length in January 2009. Here is the link to that more recent discussion: http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/i...ml?pagenumber=
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfivefour View Post
    This topic has indeed been dealt with on this site before, sis; first in May 2008 and then at more length in January 2009. Here is the link to that more recent discussion: http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/i...ml?pagenumber=

    Thank you so much Adrian, I figured it had...but I was so excited and somehow had missed this!!
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    They found it in a bog?

    Is THAT where I left it?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    They found it in a bog?

    Is THAT where I left it?!
    Don't try it Robert, you're not that old! In fact you don't even know what old is!

    To LdyinChrist, this is one of the most amazing finds of all time, isn't it! The cool factor never wears off this one...
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    I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
    I will tell of all your deeds.


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    Not to create an argument but a Praise!! I tend to agree with Readytogo:

    . That they at first released the detail that it was open to Psalm 83 must have meant that the name of the Psalm was visible in some way. Without reporting the entire "correct" Psalm in articles, many people did what people naturally do. They rushed to their Bibles to see what Psalm 83 said. This, as you pointed out, would be those whose Bibles are based on the KJV OR the Hebrew scriptures. God knew exactly when it was going to be found. Had the actual words on the page been the message that He wanted to be read, He would have "turned the pages" to a different Psalm. But He KNEW that it would be found in 2006 during the second Lebanon war. And He knew that the discovery would lead to hundreds and or thousands of people running to their Bibles and "erroneously" reading the "wrong" Psalm. Personally, I think that the timing of the release of "erroneous facts" at this point in time was pretty much "miraculous" in itself!
    http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/i...ml?pagenumber=

    God’s word says:

    1 Thessalonians 5:21: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good


    The proof is that the book was miraculously preserved, miraculously uncovered, and miraculously opened to Psalm 83 . which lead many to study this prophetic Psalm in more detail.

    The technical details did not defeat God’s purpose in Amos 3:7

    Surely the Lord GOD does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.


    I just rejoice in the Lord and although I’m slow (got a good excuse, I’m from the South LOL) and missed this info….


    To LdyinChrist, this is one of the most amazing finds of all time, isn't it! The cool factor never wears off this one...

    Thank you for rejoicing with me Meg!!
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    For the record, here's a pic. A bit more than "dusting" is required to restore a bog find, but the condition of this particular find is astonishing...

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    28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
    I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
    I will tell of all your deeds.


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    LdyinChrist

    The Sunday after the discovery of that copy is when the Lebanon/Israel conflict was going hot and heavy. Is was quite timely and encouraging to the flock at our church at the time. More than a minor miracle IMHO! Glad you found it!

    Faddan More Bog - - Psalm 83

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