Absence of Egypt, "Sheba, and Dedan" From The War...

[KR McKay]

I am subscribed to regular "e-mail updates" from noted Christian author Joel Rosenberg.

The following I pulled from today's (06 May) "update."

What is interesting is that it perhaps shows the setting of the stage for Egypt to "sit out" the Gog-Magog war. Perhaps, this development with Egypt will be what influences Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states to stay out as well:

Washington, D.C., May 6, 2009) -- For the past several days, I have attended the policy conference in Washington held by AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. It was an extraordinary event, drawing more than 6,000 pro-Israel activists from all over the country to hear directly and in person from top U.S. and Israeli leaders, including Israeli President Shimon Peres, who met yesterday at the White House with President Obama.

Monday night...AIPAC's gala dinner...More than half of the U.S. Senate was in attendance, as were most of the Members of the House of Representatives. Dozens of foreign Ambassadors were there, and Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke to the gathering live via satellite (it was 4am in Jerusalem).

Stopping Iran from getting The Bomb is clearly the Israeli leader's top priority. But he also made it clear that he sees the possibility that Arab states could end up working together closely with the U.S. and Israel against the Iranian threat. He's heading to Egypt next week at the invitation of President Mubarak. He said he's prepared to reach a "final peace settlement" with the Palestinians via a "triple track" of political negotiations, security enhancements, and economic growth initiatives. He did not say explicitly that he favors a "two state solution," because the truth is he does not believe in giving the Palestinians a full sovereign state, including the right to have an air force, the right to forge strategic alliances with Iran and Syria, etc. He stressed the importance of the Palestinians recognizing that Israel is a "Jewish state," something Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian leadership still can't bring themselves to say.

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[mattfivefour]

There is an interesting study of Egypt and Iraq. The two are NOT among the nations surrounding Israel and which will come against her in the Ezekiel prophecy. God also refers to them as "His" people as well, and pronounces end-times blessings on them.

[Sean Osborne]

Egypt and Iraq do not come against Israel in the war of Gog/Magog because they will have been dealt with in the final war of Psalm 83. That war will have paradigm shifting consequences for the 'inner ring' of Arab Muslim states. Those Arab states are going to be violently introduced to YHWH, and they will finally recognize Him instead of "allah."

The Psalm 83 war precedes the Gog/Magog war. This can be 'proven' by simply referencing Ezekiel 39:11 which clearly identifies the Gog/Magog burial place as the "Valley of the Passengers" on the east side of the Dead Sea. This valley lies in what is today the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Yet at the time of the battle of Gog/Magog this land is clearly also identifed as being in Israel. How does currently Jordanian territory become Israel's territory? Simple... the War of Psalm 83 precedes the Gog/Magog invasion, and according to the Psalmist Asaph Israel conquers much of western Jordan (in addition to Egpytian Sinai up to wadi of Egypt (wadi al-arish), western Saudi Arabia, southern Syria and Lebanon.

[mattfivefour]

Egypt and Iraq do not come against Israel in the war of Gog/Magog because they will have been dealt with in the final war of Psalm 83.

I cannot find Egypt or Iraq referred to in Psalm 83. I do see Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon , Syria, and Jordan. Therefore i do not see why either Egypt or Iraq would be "dealt with" in this war. Incidentally Joel Rosenberg holds to the same view as I and gives some very interesting scriptures to back it up.

[Sean Osborne]

I cannot find Egypt or Iraq referred to in Psalm 83. I do see Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon , Syria, and Jordan. Therefore i do not see why either Egypt or Iraq would be "dealt with" in this war.

Matt, it's simple...

Egypt is clearly named in Psalm 83:6

The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

Hagrites/Hagarenes are the descendents of Hagar, the Egyptian matriarch (Genesis 16:1) the mother of Ishmael (Genesis 16:15).

Iraq is clearly referenced in Pslam 83:8

Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

Many have heretofore made the critical eschatological error of assuming that Asshur is Syria. Not so. In Aspah's day Syria was Aram, home of the Arameans. Asshur was located along the west bank of the Tigris River, not far from what is present day Iraqi city of Samarra, also known in recent years as the "Sunni Triangle" of Irag, north of Baghdad.