Heresy in Action

[mikhen7]

I recieved this comment on my blog from a Catholic. I am sure he is because of the scripture he uses, his links, and his denial of salvation by faith alone. Also he denies that accepting Jesus as Savior and Lord is enough for salvation. Ugh!!

Please be grounded in your faith before you click on his links.

Dear Mr Henderson,

DO YOU PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH YOUR SALVATION?

Abide in Me, and I in You...

Jesus said:
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.

You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.

I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you." (John 15:1-7)

Wow! In those seven verses, the word ABIDE is mentioned seven times. The context of those verses provides us with a lot of light as to what is required of us by GOD for our eternal salvation.

Jesus said:
"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Matthew 7:13-14)

So we must not only ABIDE in Him but we must also strive to enter by the narrow gate. If we do not ABIDE in Him, then it is obvious that we are not on the path to the narrow gate of salvation, but on the path to the wide gate and to eternal destruction.

So Jesus said that if we do not ABIDE in Him (the Vine) then we will be taken away from the Vine by the Father, and will be cast off only to wither, to be gathered, and then to be thrown into the fire and burned.

Now that I have your attention, shouldn't we now find the meaning of the word ABIDE?

The theological meaning of ABIDE is to dwell within. Jesus would come and dwell in us and we likewise in Him. So as long as we do what Jesus requests of us then we are on the path to the narrow gate to salvation.

So to assure that we are on right path, Jesus has commanded that we must ABIDE in Him.

What is required in order to have Jesus ABIDE in us and we in Him?

Can we do it:

1. By accepting Him as our our own personal Lord and Savior ?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

2. By the grace of GOD only? Sola Gracias?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

3. By faith in GOD alone? Sola Fides?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

It is simple common sense that since He commanded that we must do something, then doesn't it stand to reason that He would also tell us how to do it?

Jesus was very clear in what we must do in order to have Him ABIDE in us and we in Him.

Jesus left this command for us in John 6:53-57:

53 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you (the taken away branch);

54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD ABIDES IN ME, AND I IN HIM.

57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me."

The link below also represents what the RCC believe. It is long and very heretical. I am amazed that the author has to write so many very lengthy prefacing points to finally come up with his conclusion that the Mass is a sacrifice but not a bloody one. Of note are the following:

We are now in a position to show in more detail what is new in the sacrifice of the Mass in comparison with that of the Cross. Let’s look at them individually.

1. Each consecration implies an actual and new intervention on Christ’s part since he is the principal and invisible priest of the Mass. It is he who offers himself and not properly speaking the priest who offers the host.

2. This intervention is not a new offering in relation to the offering he perpetually makes of himself and which is the very state of his risen being. It is an application of His eternal offering, its insertion at a given point in space and time.

3. The sacrifice of the Mass therefore does not acquire through its sacramental offering any merit, any efficacy, any sacrificial value that is new, but a new application of this efficacy. The Mass applies the sacrificial efficacy of the Cross at a given moment of time and to the men who live at that time.

4. The sacrifice of the Cross, by taking this sacramental form, has this added to it: that it is offered through the instrumentality of the Church, that is, through the instrumentality of men. Christ the Priest acts here by means of an instrument into which the power of his priesthood passes and gives life to the words and to the visible human gestures. And it is precisely by using this instrument that the sacrifice limits not its intrinsic value but its effective scope. It has in view the objectives of the Church here present, of the ministers and the faithful in the congregation, and it goes out to meet their faith. But what seems to limit the horizon of Christ’s sacrifice in fact perfects it, not of course in the sense that it makes it more perfect in itself, but in the sense that it enlarges its human scope. I mean that it is to a greater extent the sacrifice offered by men to God in and through their Head and their sovereign Priest.

5. Similarly, the victim of the sacrifice of the Mass takes up into himself all our personal offerings. It is one of the essential principles of the Treatise on the Redemption (and we might call it the principle of Co-redemption) that men, far from being dispensed by the sacrifice of Christ from offering themselves in sacrifice, are rather made capable by it of doing so. The imperfect victims which we are, are given value by their union with the perfect victim. By offering himself through the instrumentality of men, Christ offers men themselves with him. This is admirably expressed by the offertory rite. The bread and wine taken from the Creation are the symbol of an that men have received from God, of all their goods, of their very being. The changing of the bread and wine into the very being of Jesus Christ expresses well the total assumption by Jesus Christ of what we have and are. After the Consecration, it is no longer ourselves that our hands offer but Christ in us. God alone by becoming man could bring into existence the perfect victim, but it is everything human which he incorporates into himself, it is the whole Church which he makes his body and an extension of himself.

6. Finally, Christ’s sacrifice, by becoming eucharistic, realizes more fully the idea of sacrifice as we have explained it. When he died on the Cross, Christ certainly gathered the whole community of mankind into himself. He was its priest and he offered its sacrifice. This victim was visible, objective, external. Nor did it lack a unique symbolism of unparalleled power, since the “kind of death” which he chose, raising him up as it did with arms outstretched, genuinely signified the total gift of an obedient and submissive victim, his offering to God and his gift to men. Yet the very reality of this immolation prevented it from having a ritual character. He was the visible victim, but not visibly the priest, since he suffered passively and the authors of his immolation, far from performing a sacred rite in the name of us all, were perpetrating an odious and sinful deed. Christ’s sacrifice becomes a ritual act in its eucharistic form. As such, it is always beginning again according to the will of men living in time and unable to continue to exist save by repeating their acts.

Christ’s sacrifice does not cease to be real, it begins again in sacred and liturgical forms that are all symbolic. It was Christ himself who, before his actual death, created this characteristic of his sacrifice, linked as it is with our earthly condition. He offered his sacrifice ritually at the Last Supper before offering it actually on the Cross.

www.catholic-convert.com/documents/MassReCrucify.doc

I hesitated to post the above because of the newness of faith many have. But for those of us who know that Christ does not need to be re-appropriated each week to have eternal life the article is informative. I am glad we have been set free from such heresy. At one point in the article he calls protestants gnostics. He feels our teaching that the Host is not the actual body of Christ is gnostic in origin.

God bless

[Robert]

I recieved this comment on my blog from a Catholic. I am sure he is because of the scripture he uses, his links, and his denial of salvation by faith alone. Also he denies that accepting Jesus as Savior and Lord is enough for salvation. Ugh!!

Please be grounded in your faith before you click on his links.

Dear Mr Henderson,

DO YOU PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH YOUR SALVATION?

Abide in Me, and I in You...

Jesus said:
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.

You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.

I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you." (John 15:1-7)

Wow! In those seven verses, the word ABIDE is mentioned seven times. The context of those verses provides us with a lot of light as to what is required of us by GOD for our eternal salvation.

Jesus said:
"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Matthew 7:13-14)

So we must not only ABIDE in Him but we must also strive to enter by the narrow gate. If we do not ABIDE in Him, then it is obvious that we are not on the path to the narrow gate of salvation, but on the path to the wide gate and to eternal destruction.

So Jesus said that if we do not ABIDE in Him (the Vine) then we will be taken away from the Vine by the Father, and will be cast off only to wither, to be gathered, and then to be thrown into the fire and burned.

Now that I have your attention, shouldn't we now find the meaning of the word ABIDE?

The theological meaning of ABIDE is to dwell within. Jesus would come and dwell in us and we likewise in Him. So as long as we do what Jesus requests of us then we are on the path to the narrow gate to salvation.

So to assure that we are on right path, Jesus has commanded that we must ABIDE in Him.

What is required in order to have Jesus ABIDE in us and we in Him?

Can we do it:

1. By accepting Him as our our own personal Lord and Savior ?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

2. By the grace of GOD only? Sola Gracias?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

3. By faith in GOD alone? Sola Fides?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

It is simple common sense that since He commanded that we must do something, then doesn't it stand to reason that He would also tell us how to do it?

Jesus was very clear in what we must do in order to have Him ABIDE in us and we in Him.

Jesus left this command for us in John 6:53-57:

53 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you (the taken away branch);

54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD ABIDES IN ME, AND I IN HIM.

57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me."

The link below also represents what the RCC believe. It is long and very heretical. I am amazed that the author has to write so many very lengthy prefacing points to finally come up with his conclusion that the Mass is a sacrifice but not a bloody one. Of note are the following:

We are now in a position to show in more detail what is new in the sacrifice of the Mass in comparison with that of the Cross. Let’s look at them individually.

1. Each consecration implies an actual and new intervention on Christ’s part since he is the principal and invisible priest of the Mass. It is he who offers himself and not properly speaking the priest who offers the host.

2. This intervention is not a new offering in relation to the offering he perpetually makes of himself and which is the very state of his risen being. It is an application of His eternal offering, its insertion at a given point in space and time.

3. The sacrifice of the Mass therefore does not acquire through its sacramental offering any merit, any efficacy, any sacrificial value that is new, but a new application of this efficacy. The Mass applies the sacrificial efficacy of the Cross at a given moment of time and to the men who live at that time.

4. The sacrifice of the Cross, by taking this sacramental form, has this added to it: that it is offered through the instrumentality of the Church, that is, through the instrumentality of men. Christ the Priest acts here by means of an instrument into which the power of his priesthood passes and gives life to the words and to the visible human gestures. And it is precisely by using this instrument that the sacrifice limits not its intrinsic value but its effective scope. It has in view the objectives of the Church here present, of the ministers and the faithful in the congregation, and it goes out to meet their faith. But what seems to limit the horizon of Christ’s sacrifice in fact perfects it, not of course in the sense that it makes it more perfect in itself, but in the sense that it enlarges its human scope. I mean that it is to a greater extent the sacrifice offered by men to God in and through their Head and their sovereign Priest.

5. Similarly, the victim of the sacrifice of the Mass takes up into himself all our personal offerings. It is one of the essential principles of the Treatise on the Redemption (and we might call it the principle of Co-redemption) that men, far from being dispensed by the sacrifice of Christ from offering themselves in sacrifice, are rather made capable by it of doing so. The imperfect victims which we are, are given value by their union with the perfect victim. By offering himself through the instrumentality of men, Christ offers men themselves with him. This is admirably expressed by the offertory rite. The bread and wine taken from the Creation are the symbol of an that men have received from God, of all their goods, of their very being. The changing of the bread and wine into the very being of Jesus Christ expresses well the total assumption by Jesus Christ of what we have and are. After the Consecration, it is no longer ourselves that our hands offer but Christ in us. God alone by becoming man could bring into existence the perfect victim, but it is everything human which he incorporates into himself, it is the whole Church which he makes his body and an extension of himself.

6. Finally, Christ’s sacrifice, by becoming eucharistic, realizes more fully the idea of sacrifice as we have explained it. When he died on the Cross, Christ certainly gathered the whole community of mankind into himself. He was its priest and he offered its sacrifice. This victim was visible, objective, external. Nor did it lack a unique symbolism of unparalleled power, since the “kind of death” which he chose, raising him up as it did with arms outstretched, genuinely signified the total gift of an obedient and submissive victim, his offering to God and his gift to men. Yet the very reality of this immolation prevented it from having a ritual character. He was the visible victim, but not visibly the priest, since he suffered passively and the authors of his immolation, far from performing a sacred rite in the name of us all, were perpetrating an odious and sinful deed. Christ’s sacrifice becomes a ritual act in its eucharistic form. As such, it is always beginning again according to the will of men living in time and unable to continue to exist save by repeating their acts.

Christ’s sacrifice does not cease to be real, it begins again in sacred and liturgical forms that are all symbolic. It was Christ himself who, before his actual death, created this characteristic of his sacrifice, linked as it is with our earthly condition. He offered his sacrifice ritually at the Last Supper before offering it actually on the Cross.

www.catholic-convert.com/documents/MassReCrucify.doc

I hesitated to post the above because of the newness of faith many have. But for those of us who know that Christ does not need to be re-appropriated each week to have eternal life the article is informative. I am glad we have been set free from such heresy. At one point in the article he calls protestants gnostics. He feels our teaching that the Host is not the actual body of Christ is gnostic in origin.

God bless

Wow...


Looks like someone trusts in works! Not only that, but they are "cherry-picking" verses!!!!

So...let's take this one by one here:

1. By accepting Him as our our own personal Lord and Savior ?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

"But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." (Romans 10:8-13, NASB, emphasis mine)

2. By the grace of GOD only? Sola Gracias?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

"But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." (Ephesians 2:4-10, NASB, emphasis mine)

3. By faith in GOD alone? Sola Fides?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

"What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:“BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED. “BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, “FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised; and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised, so that he might be the father of all who believe without being circumcised, that righteousness might be credited to them, and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also follow in the steps of the faith of our father Abraham which he had while uncircumcised." (Romans 4:1-12, NASB, emphasis mine)

53 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you (the taken away branch);

54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

Slight problem...

"Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.” Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also? “Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated? “But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man. “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. “These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.” (Matthew 15:16-20, NASB, emphasis mine)

If whatever enters a man is eliminated, this also holds true for the bread and the wine of the Lord's supper.

Additionally:

"“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. “I am the bread of life. “Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. “This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. “I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh.” " (John 6:47-51, NASB)

If literally eating his flesh and blood were what he intended, then these verses which IMMEDIATELY preceded the ones quoted stand in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to that!!!

Jesus knew what he was saying, and he was speaking of his flesh and blood as SYMBOLIC.

Further:

"For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes." (1 Corinthians 11:23-26, NASB)


Frankly, scripture DEMOLISHES the notion of the last supper being literal. In order to make it work, the one who wrote all that on your blog has to either disregard or twist not only the rest of what Jesus said but what Paul said as well as John, Peter, James and Jude. And any scripture can be made to say what someone wants it to say when taken out of its' context; this is why cherry-picking is so dangerous.

DO YOU PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH YOUR SALVATION?

Sadly, the person who wrote that on your blogsite is playing it with all chambers loaded.

[mattfivefour]

Robert, you absolutely correct. The man who sent this to Mike does not know or understand scripture. And i agree with Mike that this man is clearly a member of the Roman Catholic Church. He has parroted their doctrine exactly, misusing the scriptures in the very same way.

It is extremely sad that this man is worrying about the salvation of others who are standing on the Rock when his own rests on sinking sand.

[mikhen7]

Robert, you absolutely correct. The man who sent this to Mike does not know or understand scripture. And i agree with Mike that this man is clearly a member of the Roman Catholic Church. He has parroted their doctrine exactly, misusing the scriptures in the very same way.

It is extremely sad that this man is worrying about the salvation of others who are standing on the Rock when his own rests on sinking sand.

Both of you are correct. He is completly mislead. I will allow the scripture and prayer to combat his heresy.

Thanks for commenting guys!!

[micah719]

If the RCC indeed teaches that the biscuit is converted into The Lord's body, then they would have no problem baking it with 1/3 arsenic, surely? Or topping up the communion wine with a dash of prussian blue? Please note, I'm not recommending they do that, but it would be an interesting line of inquiry to put to one in their hierarchy...

[LivnForChrist]

Praying that the Lord opens this guys eyes before it's too late.

[JC1949]

I recieved this comment on my blog from a Catholic. I am sure he is because of the scripture he uses, his links, and his denial of salvation by faith alone. Also he denies that accepting Jesus as Savior and Lord is enough for salvation. Ugh!!

Please be grounded in your faith before you click on his links.

Dear Mr Henderson,

DO YOU PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH YOUR SALVATION?

Abide in Me, and I in You...

Jesus said:
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.

You are already made clean by the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me.

I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you." (John 15:1-7)

Wow! In those seven verses, the word ABIDE is mentioned seven times. The context of those verses provides us with a lot of light as to what is required of us by GOD for our eternal salvation.

Jesus said:
"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Matthew 7:13-14)

So we must not only ABIDE in Him but we must also strive to enter by the narrow gate. If we do not ABIDE in Him, then it is obvious that we are not on the path to the narrow gate of salvation, but on the path to the wide gate and to eternal destruction.

So Jesus said that if we do not ABIDE in Him (the Vine) then we will be taken away from the Vine by the Father, and will be cast off only to wither, to be gathered, and then to be thrown into the fire and burned.

Now that I have your attention, shouldn't we now find the meaning of the word ABIDE?

The theological meaning of ABIDE is to dwell within. Jesus would come and dwell in us and we likewise in Him. So as long as we do what Jesus requests of us then we are on the path to the narrow gate to salvation.

So to assure that we are on right path, Jesus has commanded that we must ABIDE in Him.

What is required in order to have Jesus ABIDE in us and we in Him?

Can we do it:

1. By accepting Him as our our own personal Lord and Savior ?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

2. By the grace of GOD only? Sola Gracias?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

3. By faith in GOD alone? Sola Fides?
No. Where does the Bible say that?

It is simple common sense that since He commanded that we must do something, then doesn't it stand to reason that He would also tell us how to do it?

Jesus was very clear in what we must do in order to have Him ABIDE in us and we in Him.

Jesus left this command for us in John 6:53-57:

53 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you (the taken away branch);

54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD ABIDES IN ME, AND I IN HIM.

57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me."

The link below also represents what the RCC believe. It is long and very heretical. I am amazed that the author has to write so many very lengthy prefacing points to finally come up with his conclusion that the Mass is a sacrifice but not a bloody one. Of note are the following:

We are now in a position to show in more detail what is new in the sacrifice of the Mass in comparison with that of the Cross. Let’s look at them individually.

1. Each consecration implies an actual and new intervention on Christ’s part since he is the principal and invisible priest of the Mass. It is he who offers himself and not properly speaking the priest who offers the host.

2. This intervention is not a new offering in relation to the offering he perpetually makes of himself and which is the very state of his risen being. It is an application of His eternal offering, its insertion at a given point in space and time.

3. The sacrifice of the Mass therefore does not acquire through its sacramental offering any merit, any efficacy, any sacrificial value that is new, but a new application of this efficacy. The Mass applies the sacrificial efficacy of the Cross at a given moment of time and to the men who live at that time.

4. The sacrifice of the Cross, by taking this sacramental form, has this added to it: that it is offered through the instrumentality of the Church, that is, through the instrumentality of men. Christ the Priest acts here by means of an instrument into which the power of his priesthood passes and gives life to the words and to the visible human gestures. And it is precisely by using this instrument that the sacrifice limits not its intrinsic value but its effective scope. It has in view the objectives of the Church here present, of the ministers and the faithful in the congregation, and it goes out to meet their faith. But what seems to limit the horizon of Christ’s sacrifice in fact perfects it, not of course in the sense that it makes it more perfect in itself, but in the sense that it enlarges its human scope. I mean that it is to a greater extent the sacrifice offered by men to God in and through their Head and their sovereign Priest.

5. Similarly, the victim of the sacrifice of the Mass takes up into himself all our personal offerings. It is one of the essential principles of the Treatise on the Redemption (and we might call it the principle of Co-redemption) that men, far from being dispensed by the sacrifice of Christ from offering themselves in sacrifice, are rather made capable by it of doing so. The imperfect victims which we are, are given value by their union with the perfect victim. By offering himself through the instrumentality of men, Christ offers men themselves with him. This is admirably expressed by the offertory rite. The bread and wine taken from the Creation are the symbol of an that men have received from God, of all their goods, of their very being. The changing of the bread and wine into the very being of Jesus Christ expresses well the total assumption by Jesus Christ of what we have and are. After the Consecration, it is no longer ourselves that our hands offer but Christ in us. God alone by becoming man could bring into existence the perfect victim, but it is everything human which he incorporates into himself, it is the whole Church which he makes his body and an extension of himself.

6. Finally, Christ’s sacrifice, by becoming eucharistic, realizes more fully the idea of sacrifice as we have explained it. When he died on the Cross, Christ certainly gathered the whole community of mankind into himself. He was its priest and he offered its sacrifice. This victim was visible, objective, external. Nor did it lack a unique symbolism of unparalleled power, since the “kind of death” which he chose, raising him up as it did with arms outstretched, genuinely signified the total gift of an obedient and submissive victim, his offering to God and his gift to men. Yet the very reality of this immolation prevented it from having a ritual character. He was the visible victim, but not visibly the priest, since he suffered passively and the authors of his immolation, far from performing a sacred rite in the name of us all, were perpetrating an odious and sinful deed. Christ’s sacrifice becomes a ritual act in its eucharistic form. As such, it is always beginning again according to the will of men living in time and unable to continue to exist save by repeating their acts.

Christ’s sacrifice does not cease to be real, it begins again in sacred and liturgical forms that are all symbolic. It was Christ himself who, before his actual death, created this characteristic of his sacrifice, linked as it is with our earthly condition. He offered his sacrifice ritually at the Last Supper before offering it actually on the Cross.

www.catholic-convert.com/documents/MassReCrucify.doc

I hesitated to post the above because of the newness of faith many have. But for those of us who know that Christ does not need to be re-appropriated each week to have eternal life the article is informative. I am glad we have been set free from such heresy. At one point in the article he calls protestants gnostics. He feels our teaching that the Host is not the actual body of Christ is gnostic in origin.

God bless

SALVATION IS OF THE LORD.
HE DID IT ALL BY HIMSELF.
AND IT IS A PERFECT WORK OF THE PERFECT LORD for an very imperfect humanity.( starting with me)
What man does NOT get is:
A DEAD SINNER CANNOT REVIVE HIMSELF.
It takes THE SUPERNATURAL WORK OF GOD.
We are CHOSEN BY THE FATHER.
REDEEMED By THE SON.
SEALED and EMPOWERED by THE HOLY SPIRIT.
while we were DEAD in trespasses and sins,while we were ENEMIES of GOD,HE SAVED us at THE CROSS.
HE PAID THE INFINITE PRICE for THE INFINITE OFFENSE.
HE DID IT and HE DID IT WELL.ONCE and FOR ALL.
EVEN THE FAITH to say YES to JESUS,IS HIS GIFT.
Once BORN AGAIN by THE SUPERNATURAL work of THE SPIRIT there is NO WAY one can become unborn!
ONCE SAVED ETERNALLY BY HIM,we CANNOT KEEP ourselves SAVED BY ANY WORK.
HE KEEPS US.
We pray,preach,study The Word,Fellowship with believers,Love,Give etc...BY THE POWER of THE SPIRIT,not to keep ourselves saved,we ARE NOT CAPABLE to keep ourselves saved,not for one minute.
GOD KNOWS that too well,that is why HE SAVES by HIS GRACE,no sacrament,work,prayer etc..can KEEP us SAVED,that is why we CANNOT ADD neither SUBTRACT from HIS PERFECT FINISHED WORK and so we LEARN to enter in HIS REST,by ceasing to try to please HIM with works....it is not necessary,because HIS SALVATION is a PERFECT WORK.
SANCTIFICATION is IMMEDIATE in the sense that once SAVED He SETS US APART FOR EVER for HIM,that is why HE SEALS with HIS HOLY SPIRIT and also is a work in progress while we are MOLDED and SHAPED through the WORK of THE SPIRIT and THE WORD...it is a lifelong process that WILL CULMINATE in TOTAL PERFECTION the very moment we die (or are raptured) and leave behind all that is earthly and fleshly and are GLORIFIED to ENTER HIS BLESSED PRESENCE>

It is a BLASPHEMY even to think that we can ADD with our works to HIS PERFECT WORK.
PRIDE is a beast that KEEPS US from JESUS.....
BETTER FALL at HIS FEET and THANK HIM for what HE ACCOMPLISHED for US FREELY,IT IS GIFT,THE GIFT...but RELIGION and PRIDE ARE SATANIC and so.....LET'S TRUST THE FATHER and SON and HOLY GHOST......HE IS THE PERFECT SAVIOR ....
Let's ADORE HIM,let's serve HIM in THE FREEDOM of THE SPIRIT with a GRATEFUL HEART,because NO MAN can save himself neither keep saved..

IT IS THE WORK OF GOD.
SALVATION BELONGS to THE LORD,it is THE GIFT that comes with GIFTS to us who,thanks be to HIM are the beneficiaries of HIS AMAZING GRACE.
GLORY BE FOR EVER and EVER TO THE LION LAMB.JESUS !!! AMEN!

[mikhen7]

SALVATION IS OF THE LORD.
HE DID IT ALL BY HIMSELF.
AND IT IS A PERFECT WORK OF THE PERFECT LORD for an very imperfect humanity.( starting with me)
What man does NOT get is:
A DEAD SINNER CANNOT REVIVE HIMSELF.
It takes THE SUPERNATURAL WORK OF GOD.
We are CHOSEN BY THE FATHER.
REDEEMED By THE SON.
SEALED and EMPOWERED by THE HOLY SPIRIT.
while we were DEAD in trespasses and sins,while we were ENEMIES of GOD,HE SAVED us at THE CROSS.
HE PAID THE INFINITE PRICE for THE INFINITE OFFENSE.
HE DID IT and HE DID IT WELL.ONCE and FOR ALL.
EVEN THE FAITH to say YES to JESUS,IS HIS GIFT.
Once BORN AGAIN by THE SUPERNATURAL work of THE SPIRIT there is NO WAY one can become unborn!
ONCE SAVED ETERNALLY BY HIM,we CANNOT KEEP ourselves SAVED BY ANY WORK.
HE KEEPS US.
We pray,preach,study The Word,Fellowship with believers,Love,Give etc...BY THE POWER of THE SPIRIT,not to keep ourselves saved,we ARE NOT CAPABLE to keep ourselves saved,not for one minute.
GOD KNOWS that too well,that is why HE SAVES by HIS GRACE,no sacrament,work,prayer etc..can KEEP us SAVED,that is why we CANNOT ADD neither SUBTRACT from HIS PERFECT FINISHED WORK and so we LEARN to enter in HIS REST,by ceasing to try to please HIM with works....it is not necessary,because HIS SALVATION is a PERFECT WORK.
SANCTIFICATION is IMMEDIATE in the sense that once SAVED He SETS US APART FOR EVER for HIM,that is why HE SEALS with HIS HOLY SPIRIT and also is a work in progress while we are MOLDED and SHAPED through the WORK of THE SPIRIT and THE WORD...it is a lifelong process that WILL CULMINATE in TOTAL PERFECTION the very moment we die (or are raptured) and leave behind all that is earthly and fleshly and are GLORIFIED to ENTER HIS BLESSED PRESENCE>

It is a BLASPHEMY even to think that we can ADD with our works to HIS PERFECT WORK.
PRIDE is a beast that KEEPS US from JESUS.....
BETTER FALL at HIS FEET and THANK HIM for what HE ACCOMPLISHED for US FREELY,IT IS GIFT,THE GIFT...but RELIGION and PRIDE ARE SATANIC and so.....LET'S TRUST THE FATHER and SON and HOLY GHOST......HE IS THE PERFECT SAVIOR ....
Let's ADORE HIM,let's serve HIM in THE FREEDOM of THE SPIRIT with a GRATEFUL HEART,because NO MAN can save himself neither keep saved..

IT IS THE WORK OF GOD.
SALVATION BELONGS to THE LORD,it is THE GIFT that comes with GIFTS to us who,thanks be to HIM are the beneficiaries of HIS AMAZING GRACE.
GLORY BE FOR EVER and EVER TO THE LION LAMB.JESUS !!! AMEN!

Absolutely my brother!!!!! 100% in tune with Jesus!! Awesome. I wish more Catholics would set aside (a far distance..aside) the catechism and start reading the Scriptures!

When the books are opened on that final judgment day I have only found three of them.

1) the Book of life. This book contains the names of all people ever born on earth. Names of those who do not believe in Christ can be deleted from it.

2) The Lamb's Book of Life. Names are added to this as the become Christians through repenting of their sin and accepting Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord and following Him with a life of faith. Once here your name will never be removed considering we are His work and His Righteousness is what seals our way into Heaven. No One can be saved unless they are Drawn by the Father. read John 6:44.

3) The third book is the Bible. It is what all of us are judged by. It is the HOLY written WORD of GOD! Nothing will rule over it and it will stand forever.

The catechism of the catholic church is not one of the books!

Jesus said: Mark 7:6-8:
He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”


Peter said it honorably,
Acts 5:29-32:
But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree. Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”

For those who would like to see the verses that speak of these books on judgment day:

Philippians 4:3
And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.

Revelation 3:5
He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Revelation 13:8
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 17:8
The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Revelation 20:15
And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:27
But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

Revelation 22:19
and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

How to be saved:
Acts 16:25-34
But at midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them. Suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone’s chains were loosed. And the keeper of the prison, awaking from sleep and seeing the prison doors open, supposing the prisoners had fled, drew his sword and was about to kill himself. But Paul called with a loud voice, saying, “Do yourself no harm, for we are all here.”
Then he called for a light, ran in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.

God Bless

[Robert]

SALVATION IS OF THE LORD.
HE DID IT ALL BY HIMSELF.
AND IT IS A PERFECT WORK OF THE PERFECT LORD for an very imperfect humanity.( starting with me)
What man does NOT get is:
A DEAD SINNER CANNOT REVIVE HIMSELF.
It takes THE SUPERNATURAL WORK OF GOD.
We are CHOSEN BY THE FATHER.
REDEEMED By THE SON.
SEALED and EMPOWERED by THE HOLY SPIRIT.
while we were DEAD in trespasses and sins,while we were ENEMIES of GOD,HE SAVED us at THE CROSS.
HE PAID THE INFINITE PRICE for THE INFINITE OFFENSE.
HE DID IT and HE DID IT WELL.ONCE and FOR ALL.
EVEN THE FAITH to say YES to JESUS,IS HIS GIFT.
Once BORN AGAIN by THE SUPERNATURAL work of THE SPIRIT there is NO WAY one can become unborn!
ONCE SAVED ETERNALLY BY HIM,we CANNOT KEEP ourselves SAVED BY ANY WORK.
HE KEEPS US.
We pray,preach,study The Word,Fellowship with believers,Love,Give etc...BY THE POWER of THE SPIRIT,not to keep ourselves saved,we ARE NOT CAPABLE to keep ourselves saved,not for one minute.
GOD KNOWS that too well,that is why HE SAVES by HIS GRACE,no sacrament,work,prayer etc..can KEEP us SAVED,that is why we CANNOT ADD neither SUBTRACT from HIS PERFECT FINISHED WORK and so we LEARN to enter in HIS REST,by ceasing to try to please HIM with works....it is not necessary,because HIS SALVATION is a PERFECT WORK.
SANCTIFICATION is IMMEDIATE in the sense that once SAVED He SETS US APART FOR EVER for HIM,that is why HE SEALS with HIS HOLY SPIRIT and also is a work in progress while we are MOLDED and SHAPED through the WORK of THE SPIRIT and THE WORD...it is a lifelong process that WILL CULMINATE in TOTAL PERFECTION the very moment we die (or are raptured) and leave behind all that is earthly and fleshly and are GLORIFIED to ENTER HIS BLESSED PRESENCE>

It is a BLASPHEMY even to think that we can ADD with our works to HIS PERFECT WORK.
PRIDE is a beast that KEEPS US from JESUS.....
BETTER FALL at HIS FEET and THANK HIM for what HE ACCOMPLISHED for US FREELY,IT IS GIFT,THE GIFT...but RELIGION and PRIDE ARE SATANIC and so.....LET'S TRUST THE FATHER and SON and HOLY GHOST......HE IS THE PERFECT SAVIOR ....
Let's ADORE HIM,let's serve HIM in THE FREEDOM of THE SPIRIT with a GRATEFUL HEART,because NO MAN can save himself neither keep saved..

IT IS THE WORK OF GOD.
SALVATION BELONGS to THE LORD,it is THE GIFT that comes with GIFTS to us who,thanks be to HIM are the beneficiaries of HIS AMAZING GRACE.
GLORY BE FOR EVER and EVER TO THE LION LAMB.JESUS !!! AMEN!

: Amen, Roberto!!!


If works could have saved us, then the Lord died in vain upon Calvary's rough, cruel cross. Jesus did ALL that was necessary, and to try to add to it insinuates that his sacrifice was not perfect and did not pay the whole price for us. This impugns imperfection against God, and calls him a liar, when scripture clearly states that he is true and men are liars!!!!

God provided the lamb, and only asks that we surrender our pride, our worthless works, and our wills to him at the foot of the Cross. This includes "sacraments", which could NEVER save, nor CAN they ever. Nothing of ourselves could ever satisfy God's justice, and this is the sad truth of the RCC: try as they might, unless they accept his sacrifice as the total and only payment for sin, they are lost. And so are any and all who reject Him.

[JC1949]

: Amen, Roberto!!!


If works could have saved us, then the Lord died in vain upon Calvary's rough, cruel cross. Jesus did ALL that was necessary, and to try to add to it insinuates that his sacrifice was not perfect and did not pay the whole price for us. This impugns imperfection against God, and calls him a liar, when scripture clearly states that he is true and men are liars!!!!

God provided the lamb, and only asks that we surrender our pride, our worthless works, and our wills to him at the foot of the Cross. This includes "sacraments", which could NEVER save, nor CAN they ever. Nothing of ourselves could ever satisfy God's justice, and this is the sad truth of the RCC: try as they might, unless they accept his sacrifice as the total and only payment for sin, they are lost. And so are any and all who reject Him.

I know bro' and it is VERY VERY VERY sad to think that people go lost when Jesus has provided such a GIFT.....let's pray many more will believe in HIM bfore is too late....

[Hannah]

The only way I can ABIDE with the Lord is because my sins have been paid for by the only one who could pay for them............Jesus Christ. I can only stand before God because the Blood of Christ washes me clean.

There is nothing I could do for my own salvation but now that I have Saved I can live my life for the Lord and abide in Him.

[mikhen7]

The only way I can ABIDE with the Lord is because my sins have been paid for by the only one who could pay for them............Jesus Christ. I can only stand before God because the Blood of Christ washes me clean.

There is nothing I could do for my own salvation but now that I have Saved I can live my life for the Lord and abide in Him.

Amen Hannah!

Rev 1:5 (ESV)

and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood.
In Christ

[mattfivefour]

There is nothing I could do for my own salvation but now that I have Saved I can live my life for the Lord and abide in Him.

Exactly. And by doing that you demonstrate that you are indeed saved.

[MikeD]

Hannah, you said it perfectly! What awesome total and complete peace we have in our salvation in and through Jesus Christ. It's ALL DONE, COMPLETED, FINISHED!! Amen and AMEN!!!

[Psalm73]

Wow...


Looks like someone trusts in works! Not only that, but they are "cherry-picking" verses!!!!

So...let's take this one by one here:



"But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." (Romans 10:8-13, NASB, emphasis mine)




"But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." (Ephesians 2:4-10, NASB, emphasis mine)




"What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:“BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED. “BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, “FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised; and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised, so that he might be the father of all who believe without being circumcised, that righteousness might be credited to them, and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also follow in the steps of the faith of our father Abraham which he had while uncircumcised." (Romans 4:1-12, NASB, emphasis mine)





Slight problem...

"Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.” Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also? “Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated? “But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man. “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders. “These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.” (Matthew 15:16-20, NASB, emphasis mine)

If whatever enters a man is eliminated, this also holds true for the bread and the wine of the Lord's supper.

Additionally:

"“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. “I am the bread of life. “Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. “This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. “I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh.” " (John 6:47-51, NASB)

If literally eating his flesh and blood were what he intended, then these verses which IMMEDIATELY preceded the ones quoted stand in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to that!!!

Jesus knew what he was saying, and he was speaking of his flesh and blood as SYMBOLIC.

Further:

"For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes." (1 Corinthians 11:23-26, NASB)


Frankly, scripture DEMOLISHES the notion of the last supper being literal. In order to make it work, the one who wrote all that on your blog has to either disregard or twist not only the rest of what Jesus said but what Paul said as well as John, Peter, James and Jude. And any scripture can be made to say what someone wants it to say when taken out of its' context; this is why cherry-picking is so dangerous.




Sadly, the person who wrote that on your blogsite is playing it with all chambers loaded.

I %100 agree with you.