Did the Vatican create islam?

[The Aramaic Man]

I was just browsing Youtube and I came across a video titled "Did the Vatican create Islam?" Can anyone confirm if this is true? It looks very convincing. btw here is the link: YouTube - Did the Vatican Create Islam?.

there are two parts of this video, make sure to watch the second part as well.

[The Aramaic Man]

I also want to add this: YouTube - Islam - Catholic Ties, And Use of Illuminati Symbols: Part 1

[parsifal22]

No that's preposterous

[readytogo]

Without watching the videos, I can safely say that Satan invented Islam.

[The Aramaic Man]

Without watching the videos, I can safely say that Satan invented Islam.

True! but Catholics and muslims have some similarities (according to the videos) such as:

- Both love Virgin Mary
- Both have idols of Virgin Mary (according to the video)
- Both Pray to Virgin Mary, Therefore they ignore the crucifixion and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[readytogo]

True! but Catholics and muslims have some similarities (according to the videos) such as:

- Both love Virgin Mary
- Both have idols of Virgin Mary (according to the video)
- Both Pray to Virgin Mary, Therefore they ignore the crucifixion and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

That's according to the video. In reality, Muslims are forbidden to make images or statues of anything. Another thing is that they don't pray to Mary. And the reason that they ignore the crucifixion and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ is because the Koran teaches that Jesus did not die on the cross, but instead, Judas died in His place and Jesus did not rise from the dead.

[JC1949]

I was just browsing Youtube and I came across a video titled "Did the Vatican create Islam?" Can anyone confirm if this is true? It looks very convincing. btw here is the link: YouTube - Did the Vatican Create Islam?.

there are two parts of this video, make sure to watch the second part as well.

YES!!!! FINALLY !!!!!
RCC IS NOT A CHURCH OF CHRIST!!!! IT IS SATANs SEAT!!!!

[myinnuendo999]

Without watching the videos, I can safely say that Satan invented Islam.

I agree with you readytogo because history shows us how Islam came about and how the vatican came about or Roman Catholicism. They are not by the same people but they are by the same evil spirit-Satan and they have the Same Father-the Devil which is why they have some similarities.

[mattfivefour]

Yes, but in a strange way. If you read the religious histories of the Middle East you will note that by the fourth century CE many monotheistic people were revolted by the so-called "Christian church" (in reality the RCC) and its apparent worship of many beings-- three Gods, Mary, and countless saints. The fact that they could be seen erected ornate monuments to all of these and bowing down and worshiping the images of them created a fertile ground for a backlash. And, in fact, Mohammad used this RCC (and Orthodox, for that matter) idolatry to help convince his early followers that Christianity was false and God was revolted by it.

[GlennO]

RE: Religious Babylon - The Great Harlot - - - on 7 mounts

Take your pick....

This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; (Rev 17:9)

West leg of Roman Empire
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ls_of_Rome.svg

East leg of Roman Empire
Seven hills of Istanbul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[LdyinChrist]

Interesting....made me google...

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills
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City of Seven Hills usually refers to Rome. There are 51 cities on this list. There are many other cities claimed to be built on seven hills or less than seven.

* Amman, Jordan
* Asunción, Paraguay
* Bamberg, Germany
* Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain said to be built on Mont Tàber, La Rovira, El Coll, El Carmel, La Peira, El Putxet and Montjuïc
* Bath, England
* Brussels, Belgium, said to be built on St.Michielsberg, Koudenberg, Warmoesberg, Kruidtuin, Kunstberg, Zavel and St.Pietersberg
* Budapest, Hungary
* Cagliari, Sardinia
* Ceuta, Spain
* Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
* Dunedin, New Zealand
* Edinburgh, Scotland
* Gorzów, Poland
* Guaranda, Ecuador
* Iaşi, Romania (see Seven hills of Iaşi)
* Istanbul, Turkey (see Seven hills of Istanbul)
* Jerusalem, Israel [1]
* Kampala, Uganda built on Mengo, Lubaga, Namirembe, Old Kampala, Kibuli, Nakasero and Makerere
* Kiev, Ukraine [2]
* Lisbon, Portugal
* Los Angeles, California, United States
* Lynchburg, Virginia, United States
* Lviv, Ukraine
* Macau
* Mecca, Saudi Arabia
* Melbourne, Australia
* Moscow, Russia
* Nevada City, California, United States, built on Piety, Lost, Prospect, Aristocracy, Boulder, Nabob, and Buckeye Hills
* Nijmegen, Netherlands
* Nixa, Missouri, United States
* Plovdiv, Bulgaria
* Prague, Czech Republic, said to be built on seven or nine hills: Hradčany, Vítkov, (Opyš), Větrov, Skalka, (Emauzy), Vyšehrad, Karlov and Petřín
* Providence, Rhode Island, built on Christian Hill, College Hill, Constitution Hill, Federal Hill, Smith Hill, Tockwotten Hill, and Weybosset Hill.
* Pula, Croatia
* Richmond, Virginia, United States, built on numerous hills and escarpments to include Union Hill, Church Hill, Council Hill, Shockoe Hill, Gambles Hill, Navy Hill and Oregon Hill.
* Rome, Georgia, United States
* Rome, Italy (see Seven hills of Rome)
* Saint-Étienne, France
* Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States
* San Diego, California, United States
* San Francisco, California, United States (see List of hills in San Francisco, California)
* Seattle, Washington, United States (see Seven hills of Seattle)
* Sheffield, England
* Somerville, Massachusetts, United States
* Tallahassee, Florida, United States
* Tehran, Iran
* Thiruvananthapuram, India
* Tirumala, India
* Torquay, England
* Turku, Finland
* Worcester, Massachusetts, United States, built on Airport Hill, Bancroft Hill, Belmont Hill, Grafton Hill, Green Hill, Pakachoag Hill, and Vernon Hill.
* Zevenbergen, Netherlands


List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[GlennO]

LdyinChrist

Yes I've made that search, but I don't think any of those cities rise to the significance of being referenced in John's Revelation.

But I'm particularly intrigued with the notion of the two legs of iron representing the east and west branches of the Roman Empire in Nebuchadnezzar's statue. The toes of each foot made of mixture of iron and clay (the weakest of the materials described in the dream) may represent the principal nations within each leg.

Candidates for the five toes from the west leg (Christ denying nations) could be the five principal nations in the EU: Germany, UK, France, Spain and Italy.

Candidates for the five toes from the east leg (Islamic nations) could be Turkey, Libya, Algeria, Egypt and Iraq.

The Roman Empire basically controlled the Mediterranean coastal areas but also extended into Britannia and Mesopotamia. Province Map

I'm of the opinion that either Rome or Istanbul will play a supporting role to the Great Harlot and I'm also pretty sure the USA will be irrelevant to the world stage in that period.

Maranantha!

[The Aramaic Man]

LdyinChrist

Yes I've made that search, but I don't think any of those cities rise to the significance of being referenced in John's Revelation.

But I'm particularly intrigued with the notion of the two legs of iron representing the east and west branches of the Roman Empire in Nebuchadnezzar's statue. The toes of each foot made of mixture of iron and clay (the weakest of the materials described in the dream) may represent the principal nations within each leg.

Candidates for the five toes from the west leg (Christ denying nations) could be the five principal nations in the EU: Germany, UK, France, Spain and Italy.

Candidates for the five toes from the east leg (Islamic nations) could be Turkey, Libya, Algeria, Egypt and Iraq.

The Roman Empire basically controlled the Mediterranean coastal areas but also extended into Britannia and Mesopotamia. Province Map

I'm of the opinion that either Rome or Istanbul will play a supporting role to the Great Harlot and I'm also pretty sure the USA will be irrelevant to the world stage in that period.

Maranantha!

As far as I know the Antichrist will come from a country that is strong in economy, has influence in religion and politics. I think its Italy, since the pope has influence in politics, religion and possibly the economy as well. I think Turkey comes second. Turkey wants to join the European union desperately and they have good influence in politics. I am not sure about religion and economy though.

I dont think Egypt,Iran, Libya, Algeria and Iraq are close to John's prophecy.
These countries are not doing well in terms of economy. They do have have some sort of religious and political influence (sharia law?) but Italy seems closer to John's prophecy.

[GlennO]

I've changed my thinking since my earlier post....

The A/C was not the point of my post. It was religious Babylon. I do not yet have a clue from where the A/C (the Beast) may arise.

I was sloppily lumping the old Roman Empire footprint into the equation.

The seven hills of both Istanbul and Rome together with the maps showing the Roman Empire encircling the Med Sea introduced just too much uncertainty into my thinking.

I do not see North African Muslim nations as being players and RCC seems just too plain a reference as religious Babylon (Rev17:9) to ignore.

It was Rome that carried out the crucifixion. It was Rome that destroyed the Temple. Obviously Jehovah will finish the story with elegant continuity once the chapter of the story titled "The Time of the Gentiles" has played out.

MARANANTHA!

[JC1949]

[The Aramaic Man]

LOL, you have nice photoshop skills.

[mattfivefour]

Aramaic Man, Roberto did not photoshop those. I don't know where the first picture was taken, but the second picture was taken in 2006 when the pope prayed facing Mecca at the Blue Mosque in Istanbul.

There is also another picture of him with Muslim leaders taken this year at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem:

pope_outside_dom&#.jpg

And on May 14, 1999, Pope John Paul II kissed the Qu'ran presented to him by visiting Iraqi mullahs:

popejpkissingkor.jpg

No need for photoshop, bro.

(BTW, the Muslims say the reason he kissed it is that he KNEW it was the final revelation of God/Allah to man. )

[Robert]

" What is the source of quarrels and conflicts among you? Is not the source your pleasures that wage war in your members? You lust and do not have; so you commit m3You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose: “He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us”? But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, “GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE.” Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you."(James 4:1-10, NASB)

Satan may engineer his plans to draw man away from the One True God, but it is man's innate desire to sin and the wickedness in his heart that is the driving force behind it. All Satan has to do is prod man in the direction he wishes him to go, and man will charge like a mad bull. Of course, Satan can only proceed as far as the Lord will allow him, and within the confines he sets by his authority.

Islam, I would have to say, is Satan's creation, but is fueled by the rage, hatred and bloodlust of man. To this volatile mix, Satan adds his animosity and hatred of the chosen people of God, and turns them loose on the ME and the world.


But this is my opinion; God's word, and the words of those stronger in the Lord than I, prevail.

[GlennO]

Robert

Good words and good perspective! Cool avatar - good to have you back!

But this is my opinion; God's word, and the words of those stronger in the Lord than I, prevail.

BTW - In the short time I've had the pleasure of being a part of this community, your commentary and your heart and your counsel show you to be plenty strong my Brother! Tested and proven!


Glenn

[mattfivefour]

Robert

Good words and good perspective! Cool avatar - good to have you back!

But this is my opinion; God's word, and the words of those stronger in the Lord than I, prevail.

BTW - In the short time I've had the pleasure of being a part of this community, your commentary and your heart and your counsel show you to be plenty strong my Brother! Tested and proven!


Glenn

I agree!