God is not our Father

[Yendor88]

Now don't panic. Let me put this out there for everyone to tear apart, but let's kick this around.

God is not our Father, He is our Father in Law.

A Father in Law's love is conditional. it depends on how you treat His child. (Sound Familiar?)

Mary was not (spiritually) the mother of Jesus, Israel is. (That makes her our Mother in Law.)

What is a better explanation for how she has been treated than she is our Mother in Law?
Just like we the Church are the Bride of Christ, Israel is the Bride of the Father.

God still loves her (Israel) with all his heart. She is the love of His life, and He will bless those that bless her, and He will curse those who curse her.
We should pray not only for her physical peace here on earth but her spiritual peace between her and her Husband. Since she has cheated on Him with other gods. Now I think God has forgiven Israel, but they are still legally separated. (I can't wait for the Temple to be rebuilt so those two can move back in together!) As members of the Bride of Christ, we should, love and honor the members of the Bride of God.

Now a thought on Prayer.

Jesus said to pray this way: Beginning with "Our Father" and ending "In Jesus Name." But he was talking to the Jews. (His Mom) Ask Dad in My name. Even when a marriage is broken, if the mother asks the father for something for the child, the father will give it to her. I can only imagine the power of the prayers that would be unleashed if the Jews began praying to the Father in Jesus name!


As a member of the Bride of Christ it seems to me that a marriage would not last long, if your wife went to your dad for everything she wanted. And at the end of Matthew, Jesus said All power in Heaven and Earth has been given to me.

So shouldn't we pray TO Jesus....and end with "For the glory of the Father in Heaven"? Asking a husband for something that would honor His name and His Fathers. (also this puts onus on us to make sure what we are asking for will Honor His Father)


Sorry about this, Just using my imagination and thinking out loud. (relaese the hounds)

In the Service of the King of Kings

Yendor88

[Betty]

I see where you coming from but to me, God is my Father.
betty

[livin_in_the_Son]

You very obviously don't have children or you would know that a parent's love is in no way conditional. My sons and daughters have NEVER earned my love, and they can't lose it. Sure they may anger me, disobey me, and make me want to run screaming all the way to Tahiti, but I could NEVER hate them.

The difference between me and my Father in Heaven is that I'm just as imperfect as my children. I make them clean their rooms, and do homework, obstensibly to teach responsibility, but in all reality it's so I don't have to do it myself. I yell at them because sometimes they picked the wrong day to run around inside, and sometimes I hide all the ice cream so that I can make sure I get some.

Parents who 'hate' their kids, were never mommies or daddies, and never 'loved' their children to begin with. All the women and men who kill their precious babies for whatever reason, truly only did it for their own selfish reasons and not because they had love for that child.

And just in case you wonder about violent children...I have a family member who has tried repeated to kill their parents, in various ways over the years....that person's mother still loves them, and even though has no physical contact for safety reasons, she loves her child still today.

A parent's love for a child was given to us from God, so why shouldn't it be just as unconditional as His (even though imperfect)?

[mattfivefour]

The Bible clearly teaches that we who believe are God's children and He is our Father. It also teaches that Jesus is both our friend and our elder brother. And we in union with all believers who form the Bride are espoused to Him who is the Groom. Do not mistake the corporate relationship for the individual.

[Hannah]

Yendor88

I think you mean Step-Father and Step-mother.

So are you saying God is our Step-Father because we are adopted sons and daughters but Jesus is God's Flesh and Blood or Biolgical child?


I am a Step-mother and my love for my step-children is not perfect nor as strong as their own biological mother's love (who is still alive). Yes I would agree with your thinking on the ability of a Step-parent to love their adopted children can have some limitations.

However I will say our love as a Step-parent is faulty because we are Sinful Humanbeings not because we are not the Biological parents.

God is without Sin and can Love us with total purity and far more than a Sinful Biological Parent. The Bible expresses this very point I have just made in the following scripture.

MT 7:9 "Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!

God is not our Step Father either because we have His spirit in us. We are of God and not just adopted sons and daugthers. Just like we have our own biological parents DNA we end up with God's spiritual DNA through His Spirit dwelling in us. God is more than just our Adopting Father, we have part of God in us enabling us to be like Him.

Of course just like our parents made us; so did God. You see our parents only contributed their DNA but God is said to form our very beings in our mothers womb. The Bible also says we are created in His image. So each one of us is really the sum total of our earthly mother and father Plus God.

GE 1:27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

PS 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.

REV 4:11 "You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being."

No God is not our Step-Father or Father-in-law. God is our Heavenly Father. God was involved in our creation and He formed us in everyway. We are His creation and when we have our sins paid for through the Blood of His Son we are able to have that unhindered relationship with the God who made us. We are reconciled back to our Father.

[Robert]

Now don't panic. Let me put this out there for everyone to tear apart, but let's kick this around.

God is not our Father, He is our Father in Law.

A Father in Law's love is conditional. it depends on how you treat His child. (Sound Familiar?)

Mary was not (spiritually) the mother of Jesus, Israel is. (That makes her our Mother in Law.)

What is a better explanation for how she has been treated than she is our Mother in Law?
Just like we the Church are the Bride of Christ, Israel is the Bride of the Father.

God still loves her (Israel) with all his heart. She is the love of His life, and He will bless those that bless her, and He will curse those who curse her.
We should pray not only for her physical peace here on earth but her spiritual peace between her and her Husband. Since she has cheated on Him with other gods. Now I think God has forgiven Israel, but they are still legally separated. (I can't wait for the Temple to be rebuilt so those two can move back in together!) As members of the Bride of Christ, we should, love and honor the members of the Bride of God.

Now a thought on Prayer.

Jesus said to pray this way: Beginning with "Our Father" and ending "In Jesus Name." But he was talking to the Jews. (His Mom) Ask Dad in My name. Even when a marriage is broken, if the mother asks the father for something for the child, the father will give it to her. I can only imagine the power of the prayers that would be unleashed if the Jews began praying to the Father in Jesus name!


As a member of the Bride of Christ it seems to me that a marriage would not last long, if your wife went to your dad for everything she wanted. And at the end of Matthew, Jesus said All power in Heaven and Earth has been given to me.

So shouldn't we pray TO Jesus....and end with "For the glory of the Father in Heaven"? Asking a husband for something that would honor His name and His Fathers. (also this puts onus on us to make sure what we are asking for will Honor His Father)


Sorry about this, Just using my imagination and thinking out loud. (relaese the hounds)

In the Service of the King of Kings

Yendor88

"If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ." (1 Peter 1:17-19, NASB, emphasis mine)