Modesty (click on the link, too.)

[Psalm73]

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Two weeks in a public highschool and I feel like singing that song at the top of my lungs in the middle of a crowded hallway....
I'm sick of seeing girl's backsides barely covered in denim and bras...

Sorry, little bit of a rant there. Anyway, I was listening to that song and it made think. Well, is it just me, or have modest clothes kind of gone out the back door? It seems like it's all about looking "hot" or "sexy". Has anyone else noticed this, especially in younger ladies? *raises hands.*
And what are your standards for modest clothing? Sorry, this is kinda random.. :P

[king'sbloomingrose]

I think modesty has totally gone downhill too. I typically like to wear long dresses/skirts with a T-shirt. As far as the song goes, I think you really should sing it in a crowded school hallway. It would be interesting to see the reactions you'd get!

[Psalm73]

That would be interesting. I was considering singing it in the talent show. :P I brought a Cd of music to play in P.E, so added it to the mix. I wonder how that reaction is going to be. :P

Um, hm. Well, I'd probably get called into the principals office for harassment and get shoved around by angered upperclassmen. =0

Either that, or the teachers would laugh and I'd get stamped "shunned" by the other kids. :P

[Kist]

Aye modesty is something one has to look for these days. Though in fairness, atleast here in rainy Netherlands, it has been the case for quite some time. And it isn't just the clothing, modesty is gone in all shapes and sizes. I have to spent four hours in the bus every time I go to school(university, but my situation does not permit me leaving home as of yet), and I hear the most ridiculous stories. In fact we(the three of our class that have to travel the same way) always know when it is about to get crazy with weird stories in the bus. It is always the same group of people. Modesty in all shapes and sizes, clothing, speach, but also the self image is something you'd need a microscope to find sometimes. But when it comes to clothing, there are hardly exceptions. Temptations are literally everywhere. But it requires self discipline of the men to not fall into that. Though in fairness it is still an edification point for me at times. For the women I think it's even worse in consequences than the men. I mean, I can't imagine the problems that come from this society we have created, in which looks, and looking hot, and such is the most important thing. I can't imagine the consequences of being viewed as an object. Most young women also have no idea of the long term effects of their behaviour. I remember one day, one of my mates and myself entered the school, and not knowing about anything we went up the stairs(already being late), and then all of a sudden two classmates appeared. They were all like hey guys you hear the big news? Well we were bit different than most(although I was a churchian, I still had some different views) so we hadn't, turned out some girl had sent someone nude pictures of herself. Guess what happened.... the entire school(small building we all knew pretty much everyone), except a few(including myself thankfully) saw them. Now she is known as the girl that took a nude picture of herself. These girls don't realise these kind of actions bare consequences for their entire lifes. Not just for their reputation, but for things that are far more important. Many don't realise the effects of a lot of behaviour. The intimacy in marriage for example is heavily influenced by things like fornication, but I can imagine it being influenced by a girl walking around with practically no clothes on.
The sad fact in the end though is that we as a society created this situation. Young people are easily influenced, and they easily pick up on things. If they view someone as a role-model they take over certain trades. For them it seems the way to succes and happyness is through dressing like that. It is a desire to be part of the crowd, but also a desire to fill a void. A void, as we know can only be filled by Christ, which is something we can never be thankful enough about. What happens though when those girls hit 40-50? Chances are they are going to end up divorced, torn apart by their emptyness of the empty things they pursuit.

[Psalm73]

Well said, Kist!

[Hannah]

Fashion has totally gone from modest to cheap, trashy, look like a prostitute.

If you take the time to do a search on the internet to see what women wore in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and even the 1980s were still OK. After that we have got nothing but really short dresses/skirts and really low sut tops with barely nothing in between.

Satan has done a great job in making women/girls not realise they need modesty and to dress with modesty so they are loved and respected as they want to be. Instead they think they need to put it out their to be loved. What a lie. If you go around half naked all you get is used and dumped because that is the message you are giving off, "I don't care about myself or have any self respect", so why would any boy/guy treat you with value or worth when you have none for yourself?

You can't convince young girls to cover up either. I had trouble even trying to explain to some young Church mothers that their jeans and tops were to revealing that every time they bent over you could see their undies or breasts. Their reply to me is that we shouldn't be looking. A bit hard when they stop right in front of you to pick up a child. The minister should have refused to give them communion if their garments were so revealing. That was the problem the minister would complain to us older parishioners but he needed to say it from the pulpit and then enforce it in some manner.

I understand exactly what you are saying. Even as a woman I don't want to see what colour undies other women are wearing or have to see their breasts. Men/boys should have to be trying to look they other way, poor guys would end up with whiplash constantly having to turn their heads.

The world today has lost all sense of decency and morality and modesty. I know not 100% of the world but the majority of the world. We can only pray that they are saved and become aware of God's Standards and desire to apply them to their lives.

In the meantime we can only really be accountable for ourselves and how we dress so that we can hopefull be an example for others to follow.

[Robert]

Frankly, unless she is at the beach, I don't want to see more skin than cloth on a woman as she is walking by (and at the beach, she should have a DECENT bathing suit, not 3 patches of cloth connected by strings!).

As a guy, I have gotten to the point where I don't go to the mall anymore during the summer, and limit my travels out to the stores as well. I consider a woman to be attractive when she shows creative choices in attire, hairstyle, and most importantly, loves the Lord and doesn't seek to dress like a prostitute. In short: if some little girl feels she needs to show more of herself than is appropriate in order to attract attention, then she must be VERY empty inside. And if that is the case, then there is nothing there for me!


I want a godly girl to talk to, not a slutty one.

[Keeplookinup]

As a woman that is now in her 50's, I can safely say that I truly believe that some women simply don't 'get it'. They have no idea the temptation/struggles they pour out on men; nor do they truly understand a man's make-up. I am hearing of way too many men (Christian men) that struggle with 'lusts of the flesh'. They simply can not get away from it as scantily clad women are EVERYWHERE. I give my grown daughters grief when they were their blouses so low I can all the way down their cleavage...to them this is the 'norm'. The more I seek to understand the male psyche, the more I realize the struggles they face to stay pure/faithful...for their wives but most of all for the Lord. I have done a complete 180 on the thinking of my youth when getting the guys attention was all a part of the game. Sad, sad, sad. I feel for the men of this world too.

[Kist]

Aye indeed Hannah that is an often heard cry, Women saying ah men shouldn't be looking then. While the whole goal of such clothing in the first place is for people to look at you. Besides I can't control the first look, I have a choice in the second look, but if I'm just watching to the front, and some woman will come up half dressed then that is a look I don't have a choice in.

[Meg]

If men would make a big deal out of nice clothes worn well, instead of the big deal they DO make over nice curves on parade, women would respond accordingly. People respond to actual or perceived compliments, and lust is false approval.

[Kist]

If men would make a big deal out of nice clothes worn well, instead of the big deal they DO make over nice curves on parade, women would respond accordingly. People respond to actual or perceived compliments, and lust is false approval.

Ofcourse Meg it is a two way affair. That's why I said in my first post that we as a society created this mess. Why do men only look for curves? Because the media and their peers puts that in their mind. Why do Women wear revealing clothes? Well a number of reasons, all fed through the media, their peers, and men. Effect of that is men start obsessing with curves even more, and women reveal even more.

[myinnuendo999]

It's really so sad when you see many women who are dressing skimpy. I see women like that as insecure because they don't know TRUE LOVE. To buy into the lie that your whole worth is placed on your outer appearance and sacrifice your dignity for worldly worth? The world doesn't care. They use, abuse and throw away people.. How many of these same women if they were holding their baby daughter in their arms would want their Daughter's to dress like this??

Only Jesus gives women true beauty from the inside out. He is the ONLY One who can give us true worth, restore our dignity, worth and value.

I just pray that women who have bought into this awful lie would turn to Jesus and be set free. Whenever they've come to the emptiness and worthlessness of their loss of dignity and value, I pray that they would turn to Jesus who will truly love them and is the ONLY One who can redeem them by HIS love that he demonstrated at the cross when he died for us while we were STILL his enemies... He truly loves US...