Need Help

[Keith]

I just found out that two teachers/ministries I listen to don't believe in any rapture at all and don't know what I should do.

Should I quit listening to them at all?

[chrisb01]

I would not give them a second of my time. There are a lot of ministries with bad theology out there. Especially on Christian television. If they don't believe in the rapture, what are they preaching?

I believe in a Gospel that offers me hope now and forever.

We'd be wasting our time if Jesus wasn't coming back for us. To listen to someone who preaches or teaches that there's no rapture I'd rather watch a good football game.

But I would only listen and see the ones that do believe in the rapture, and there's a lot of them out there too.

If you have sent them any money, politely ask them to send you your money back, so can buy something to entertain you during the tribulation. Since they are telling you that you are not going to get raptured.

Keith, the rapture will happen, you can rest assured on God's promises.

Don't listen to those jerks. All they want is money and fame.

[micah719]

send them the Rapture Scripture proofs and ask them why something so literal has to be explained away...

[Keith]

One of them believes we'll be here all the way through the battle of Armagedon and that the next thing to happen will be WW3.

I mean he believes we'll be here through it all: the rebuilding of the temple, the abomination of desolation, the mark of the beast, etc. etc. etc.

You all know its a LOT of stuff we'll be here to live through that yet has to happen before the actual second coming if he's right.

It also seems to counterdict other things that clash with it to me but thats the case if he really believes what he says.

He also never says anything of a Psalm 83 or Isaiah 17:1 prophecy that still has to be fulfilled.

This overall is very disturbing to me because he seems to know the bible and has been studying it for awhile. He's also a prophecy teacher and I had believed in his ministry enough to send a donation to him, actually I have sent at least one donation to both of them.

[micah719]

the message to the church of Philadelphia would be a good way to start a conversation about it......combine that with the Lord Jesus' emphatic command to "watch"...it's a dangerous area, considering the potential for divisive arguments, it would be interesting to know how the rest of their doctrine squares with Scripture...

[chrisb01]

Keith, come clean brother. Give us their names. Some members of this board might be listening and watching them, and probably even sending them money.

Also, we might be able to give you some Biblical evidence contradicting these ministries.

We want to know who they are.

[Jesus Freak]

Brother, your not the only one to get upset to find out that your fav. bible teacher or pastor actually has no common sense or interpretation at all. So dont feel bad.

[RonJohnSilver]

Keith.....My Opinion, o.k.? Any church or ministry or program that is not Biblically centered, teaching that God sent his Son, in the flesh, to die for our sins and that He is coming again to take us home.....needs to be dropped like a hot rock. Some advocate confronting them and that's fine if that's how they are led. Whichever path you choose, do not support them or listen to them. There are many good ministries out there. If you're looking for good, solid, Biblical preaching...here's my suggestion.....others may have more. Harvest Family Fellowship
Steve Hadley is the minister.

[Keith]

Keith.....My Opinion, o.k.? Any church or ministry or program that is not Biblically centered, teaching that God sent his Son, in the flesh, to die for our sins and that He is coming again to take us home.....needs to be dropped like a hot rock. Some advocate confronting them and that's fine if that's how they are led. Whichever path you choose, do not support them or listen to them. There are many good ministries out there. If you're looking for good, solid, Biblical preaching...here's my suggestion.....others may have more. Harvest Family Fellowship
Steve Hadley is the minister.

They believe he's coming back just only the 2nd coming at the end of the Great Tribulation.

[bghtnpd4]

I don't listen to any teachers who teach error, period. We are commanded to study to show ourselves approved. In other words, we are to study enough to know error when we see it.