hello folks, need clarification

[orlibonurb]

Hi,

I am on the verge of getting a part-time job during the weekend, meaning i'll have to work on the sabbath, but I wouldn't maintain the 4th commandment that way ?

God comes first in my life, I've been jobless for quite some time now and am & will be following the narrow path, but need some clarification here, do I need to turn down this job in order to continue following the 10 commandments ?


God be with you all & your loved ones, love from Portugal


edit: after some more reading / researching it seems like we are not bound by the sabbath. Thank you anyways & GOD bless you all.

[Adopted Son]

When Jesus was faced with hunger for Himself and His disciples, on the Sabbath, He chose to pick corn to feed them saying the heart is where obedience is practiced. I believe from your writing, God knows your heart. If you must feed yourself and the way forces you to work on the Sabbath, then please do not starve. God loves you, just the way you are.

[Faith]

Orlibonurb,

My husband has to work 'shift work' being he works two Sundays out of the month,and sometimes more for the last 34 years...

To me, serving the Lord, is serving Him seven days a week....

It's not just serving him on Sunday.

My husband is a very 'godly man' compare to most men....

God has taught him the Word even more than a man sitting in Church every Sunday.

God has 'bless' us because He knows our heart....

You need to pray about your situation,and what the Lord laids upon your heart, I believe that will be your answer...

[LdyinChrist]

Here is a sermon by John MacArthur that might help

Understanding the Sabbath :: Grace to You

You can read it or listen to it.

[bghtnpd4]

I agree, Adopted.

[Price is paid]

My Savior died for all sin. If this is the only sin in your life it was paid for before you were born and at the same time you are truly blessed. From a personal standpoint it would be nice for me to have only that sin in my life, as I pray daily for forgiveness.

[MikeD]

Orlibonurb, just wanted to say, up until recently, well about 2 years ago, my work called for me to work a lot on Sundays. Sometimes I'd be off, sometimes I wouldn't. But, either way, I was STILL there with the Lord and my family in prayer and just allowing myself to be in the Lord's presence, where ever I was.

Yes, I would agree, it is good to be in church on the Lord's day. I DO NOT forsake that. Also, good to be in church for the fellowship with other Christians. But, if not, because of work, make your day in "church" where ever you are! God knows your heart and your needs. He'll bless you and PROSPER you where ever you are! He is truly and awesome God!! Oh, and don't forget, whether you're in church or not, HE STILL LOVES YOU!! Always has and always will. Don't allow the "world" to tell you anything less...

[orlibonurb]

Yes, thank you ladies & gents. We serve an awesome GOD, he is #1 in my life, I live for Him & with Him. No sin, no nothing, just JESUS !

GOD bless you all and your loved ones, thanks for the input.


ps: Thank you for the link LdyinChrist, will check it out

[LdyinChrist]

Just remember...

God created the sabbath for man...

Not man for the sabbath

Rest in Him :)

[waitingforhim]

Some people have to work on the Sunday like doctors and nurses for their attendance to their patients. Isn't G-d with these people at this time. If you have to work on Sunday G-d is still with you in your heart. He is with you always, wherever you are.
Also you need this job - has G-d provided you with the job you need.

[mattfivefour]

When asked what was the greatest of the commandments, Jesus did NOT reply with one of the Ten Commandments. You see, those commandments were to bring people into obedience to the true will of God. Instead Jesus summed up that will in His answer. He said, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment." And then He continued: "And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." In fact, Matthew records that Jesus then said, "On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

That's quite a statement. But since God said it, it is absolutely true. And only someone who has kept those two commandments perfectly ... NEVER having once for even a split second violated even the smallest part of them could ever be righteous before God. So anybody who has ever missed perfection once would be lost eternally. Even the sacrifices were temporal and could not wash away one's sin. As Paul said, "It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins." (Hebrews 10:4) all that the sacrifices did was provide a picture of the coming Perfect, Sinless Sacrifice ... the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world. (John 1:29) And note it does not say "sins" but "sin": it is refering to the Sin nature that causes us to sin and separates us from God.

When Christ died on the Cross, He died the sinless Lamb to take away our sin (1 John 3:5; 1 Peter 1:18-19) and to give us His righteousness (Philippians 3:9) by faith. So you see only Christ ever achieved the righteousness that was by the law. Nobody eelse ever did. nobody else ever will. so your efforts are useless.

We are not right with God because we keep the commandments but because Christ did. And we receive all that was christ's by being "in" Christ as a reulst of being truly born again. Indeed "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (Romans 10:4) You see, "The law was made to bring us TO Christ." (Galatians 3:24) And once we are in Christ we are free from the demands of the law (Galatians 3:25). Indeed it is by the Law of sin and Death that sin works death in us. But "now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter (Romans 7:6). You see, "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you." (Romans 8:2-9a)

Now we will want to keep the law, if we are His, because our reborn spirit wants to please Him. and as we are changed more and more into His image, we shall sin less and less and, conversely, keep His law more and more. And remember that His law is summed up in those two laws that Jesus spoke above.

You will find I believe a scripturally sound discussion of the law at What is "the law"

And as to the specific issue of the Sabbath (which is the seventh day ... from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday), it is one of the most misunderstood laws of the Old Testament. It was created by God as something very special. In fact it was given a place higher than even the sacrifices, because it is the only ceremonial law that is enshrined in the Ten Commandments. And why is it so special? Because it pictured our salvation ... it was given as a type or a shadow of what was to come, just as the temple sacrifices were given as a picture of Christ's coming sacrifice.

Allow me to repeat what I have said in another thread: The Sabbath was the perfect type of God's rest. None of man's work was to be done on it. He was to rest physically ... showing the "type" of our salvation that God intended the Sabbath to be ... representing how man would one day rest spiritually.

Yet man is to do God's work in that rest. We find this truth expressed in a scripture about the OT Sabbath: "If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words" ... in other words, we need to be doing HIS ways, finding HIS pleasure, speaking HIS words. Yet, I can hear some of you reading this say, "Is that not having to DO something?" Yes. And no. We seem to have a conundrum.

So how do we resolve it? How do we rest without working, yet still somehow work? Well, it is actually easy. Man is to rest from his own works. This occurs when we enter the rest that is our salvation. And when we do, with God's nature now planted within us, the incredible thing is that now GOD will will to do—and WILL do—the works He desires to do through us. (Philippians 2:13) As Jesus said, "The branch can not bear fruit by itself, it must remain attached to the vine." (John 15:4) You see, it is not the branch that produces the fruit, but the life in the tree, coursing through the connection from the trunk to the branch and thus out to the ends, that produces the fruit. Only the tree produce the life that enables the natural fruit to be brought forth. The branch does nothing but remain attached to the tree and draw everything it needs from it. The fruit then cannot help but appear.

So there we have the resolution: WE do not do the work, HE does. We just have to be willing vessels to be used by and for Him. And as we remain attached to Him (and ONLY as we remain attached to Him), HIS work will naturally flow through us, HIS life-giving sap feeding and growing our spiritual bodies, eventually producing the good fruit, the good works, that He wants. We just need to remain attached to Him. And how do we do that? Through obedience ... which flows out of our loving Him in response to His loving us. And through feeding the new nature that is within us. Every day. ALL day. In other words, we remain attached to Him by seeking Him continually; obeying Him continually; loving him continually; continually developing that same close, personal relationship with Him that you would with the woman or the man that you love. After all, marriage and the love between a man and a woman are used in the Bible to explain the relationship between us and God.

When we seek to keep ourselves attached to Him, He can work freely in us and through us.

So don't worry about law keeping, Orlibonurb. Law keeping will do no good. Law keeping is living according to the flesh. And as Paul said to the Church in Galatia: "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" (Galatians 3:1-3)

That you so desire to serve Him is evidence of your tender heart toward Him. But trying to do it through law keeping is not operating in the Spirit but in the flesh. Seek instead to die to self daily ... daily surrendering your will, your ideas, your ways to Him, trusting solely in the finished work of Christ on the Cross as sufficient for every single need you have ... reckoning yourself to no longer have a life of your own but rather that you have died to all that was and you now live only to do His will. In so doing you will find the Holy Spirit producing in you that which you want-- to become more like Him.

I hope this helps.

In Christ,

Matt