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    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wept and asked God to spare his life during a pre-Easter Mass on Thursday after returning from his latest session of cancer treatment in Cuba.


    Very little is known about the 57-year-old socialist leader's condition, including even what type of cancer he has. Chavez has undergone three operations in less than a year, and received two sessions of radiation treatment.

    Hugo Chavez weeps and calls on God to spare his life - Telegraph

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    The man is seriously deluded.
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    Daniel 2:21
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    21 And He changes the times and the seasons;
    He removes kings and raises up kings;
    He gives wisdom to the wise
    And knowledge to those who have understanding.



    Genesis 12:3
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    3 I will bless those who bless you,
    And I will curse him who curses you;

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    Bottom line is you don't mess With God and his Nation or people!!!Reminds me how he disposes of Rulers,and Kings!



    Herod’s Violent Death
    20 Now Herod had been very angry with the people of Tyre and Sidon; but they came to him with one accord, and having made Blastus the king’s personal aide their friend, they asked for peace, because their country was supplied with food by the king’s country.

    21 So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them. 22 And the people kept shouting, “The voice of a god and not of a man!” 23 Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God. And he was eaten by worms and died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Bottom line is you don't mess With God and his Nation or people!!!Reminds me how he disposes of Rulers,and Kings!



    Herod’s Violent Death
    20 Now Herod had been very angry with the people of Tyre and Sidon; but they came to him with one accord, and having made Blastus the king’s personal aide their friend, they asked for peace, because their country was supplied with food by the king’s country.

    21 So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them. 22 And the people kept shouting, “The voice of a god and not of a man!” 23 Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God. And he was eaten by worms and died.
    Yes,true.
    Shouldn't we pray that the man gets saved.?..to my knowledge The Lord does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked.....and there is hope for the hopeless because of Jesus.....before I was saved ,in my stupidity and ignorance of the truth,I was pro Palestinians,because that was the political position of the PCI ( Italian Communist Party) of the time ( 1970's)......of course Satan uses all manner of ways and means to keep us blinded to the truth of the gospel...after I got saved I had a great love for Israel,I even went in the Rome Synagogue and tried to convert the usher there!
    Sinners of the Jews and Gentiles need Jesus....we all need Jesus and Chavez might be a criminal just like the rest but still,imagine if he gets born again!
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    Pray for his soul!

    "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8
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    Yes pray,but he is so deluded ,he so much hatred ,so intrenched in socialism...Not even John the baptist ,or Jesus himself got thru to Herod!! Ditto on Pharoh..Comes a time when God hardens the heart where its to late for prayer...He done Cursed,swore at God,he cursed himself by cursing Israel,and God ...He first needs to take back his Hatred of God before he can be saved...Don't forget he's a die hard Catholic.

    Chavez "The Golan Heights belong to the Syrian people ... the genocidal state of Israel will be put in place, and hopefully a democratic state will be born, with which to share ideas.

    take this opportunity to condemn from the bottom of my soul, from the bottom of my guts: **** you State of Israel! **** you! Terrorist and Assassins! [Crowd applauds and shouts 'Long Live Palestine!'] Long live the Palestinian people! Heroic people! Good people!


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    Victory belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ. Worthy is the Lamb of God, for His blood paid for us all. Truly sad, and while I agree this man is deluded, the focus in my view is not on God's anger to those who curse Israel or deny God; that is for Him to act on. I pray for him, for if he truly sees the error of his ways, and falls on his knees before our powerful and Almighty God, praise the Lord for His mercy is ENDLESS and extends to even those who shake their fist at God. For if the shaking of their fist turns into shaking of their body in prayer and crying tears of contriteness to God, acknowledging HIS AUTHORITY and that HE WHO IS I AM loves, then the eyes of his heart will be opened.

    More and more, I feel the Holy Spirit compelling me to pray for the lost. They who are oblivious to what is coming, woe unto them who deny God. GOD PAID FOR US IN HIS SUFFERING. Wow, can I get an Amen? Seriously, the more I pray and think on what God has done...truly I am humbled.

    All glory and power belong to God the Father, who Was, and Is, and forever Will Be. I am not to judge, as I said, that belongs to God. Vengeance belongs to The Lord YHWH, for those who deny shall drink from the cup of his wrath. Woe unto those who shake their fist instead of their entire being shaking before God's Almighty Power. AMEN!

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    The man is seriously deluded.
    He sure is.

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    Yes, he is delusional but there but by the grace of God, go I. Praying for that
    he is set free from the bondage, blindness, and deafness of Satan. Open his
    eyes Lord to the truth of your word before it's too late. Only you and you alone
    know whether his heart is hardened beyond the help of faith and prayer. On the
    chance that it's not too late, I request that you save his soul. In Jesus name,
    Amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Yes pray,but he is so deluded ,he so much hatred ,so intrenched in socialism...Not even John the baptist ,or Jesus himself got thru to Herod!! Ditto on Pharoh..Comes a time when God hardens the heart where its to late for prayer...He done Cursed,swore at God,he cursed himself by cursing Israel,and God ...He first needs to take back his Hatred of God before he can be saved...Don't forget he's a die hard Catholic.]
    I am with you all on the fact that Hugo is a seriously deluded man, but so was Nebuchadnezzar. "And at the end of the time I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever: For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom is from generation to generation." Daniel 4:34

    Remember judgment is reserved for God and not man. "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment" Hebrews 9:27
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Timothy4:1-5 View Post
    I am with you all on the fact that Hugo is a seriously deluded man, but so was Nebuchadnezzar. "And at the end of the time I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever: For His dominion is an everlasting dominion, And His kingdom is from generation to generation." Daniel 4:34

    Remember judgment is reserved for God and not man. "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment" Hebrews 9:27
    I don't see anyone condeming Chavez??Just see alot of Gods promises in scripture, of what happens to people/leaders of nations when you curse him.Just as Pharos,Herod ,Hitlers of the world.He's in bed so to speak with the enemies of Israel,Ahmadinejad and His socialist in the New world Oorder,Just playing out his endtime role.Pray yes,but in the last days God turns the heathens ,over to Satan.lets not forget he is a loving God,but he is also a vengeful ,righteous lord...


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    Much of the world—and most of the church— believe in justice, judgment and mercy. Mercy is what everyone wants for them self; justice and judgment is what they want for others. Thank God, we did not see the fruit of justice in our lives! Thank God we did not receive the judgment we richly deserved! Because of Jesus WE received mercy. And He died that ALL might live. God loved the world—that is to say, every single person in it—so much that He gave His Son for it. Not just for us who presently believe, not just for those whom we think may believe, but for EVERYBODY. As we who are saved from the penalty of our sin received mercy not judgment, grace not justice, how can we not pray for the same for others? Or do we think perhaps we weren't as bad as them? That our sin was somehow a little better?

    Jesus begged His Father for forgiveness for those who with all of the hatred and wrath of Satan tortured and crucified Him. Can we not do so for those who do evil to others?
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    I don't see anyone condeming Chavez??Just see alot of Gods promises in scripture, of what happens to people/leaders of nations when you curse him.Just as Pharos,Herod ,Hitlers of the world.He's in bed so to speak with the enemies of Israel,Ahmadinejad and His socialist in the New world Oorder,Just playing out his endtime role.Pray yes,but in the last days God turns the heathens ,over to Satan.lets not forget he is a loving God,but he is also a vengeful ,righteous lord...


    Romans 1:28
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    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
    Vengeance belongs to the Lord our God. It is not our place to make judgments on the vengeance spoken about by God Himself. We are to show mercy as we have been shown mercy. God will carry out His will and it is His to carry out as He pleases. Condemn him? Why? That is God's position; all glory and power belong to God the Father forever and ever. That is the truth, it is not our place to chastise him. While I don't agree, I'm not going to rejoice in the wraith of God on someone, I pray they feel the peace I have been given...EVERYONE has been given the opportunity. If you don't like the sound of that, then I'm sorry

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    Vengeance belongs to the Lord our God. It is not our place to make judgments on the vengeance spoken about by God Himself. We are to show mercy as we have been shown mercy. God will carry out His will and it is His to carry out as He pleases. Condemn him? Why? That is God's position; all glory and power belong to God the Father forever and ever. That is the truth, it is not our place to chastise him. While I don't agree, I'm not going to rejoice in the wraith of God on someone, I pray they feel the peace I have been given...EVERYONE has been given the opportunity. If you don't like the sound of that, then I'm sorry
    Please tell me where i,or anyone condenmed Chavez?????Where..Don't say he was condemed by anyone here....

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    Please tell me where i,or anyone condenmed Chavez?????Where..Don't say he was condemed by anyone here....
    Well, literally no one has, but by not praying for him, I would consider that condemnation since it's not showing him mercy as we have been shown. You only quoted verses of scripture about the Lord's vengeance, which sounds as if you just support condemning him rather than praying for him. This is what I took from this and if you don't agree, well, prayer is the only answer in that respect. God Bless.

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    Well, literally no one has, but by not praying for him, I would consider that condemnation since it's not showing him mercy as we have been shown. You only quoted verses of scripture about the Lord's vengeance, which sounds as if you just support condemning him rather than praying for him. This is what I took from this and if you don't agree, well, prayer is the only answer in that respect. God Bless.
    I see and appreciate what your saying neohistory,my point of the article was History is laden with haters of Israel /God who have been destroyed by God ..Pharoh and the egyptians back then,Belshazzar,Kng Herod ,Hitler ,to modern day Arafat ,Saddam Hussien ,Moammar Gadhafi ..No we pray for the evil leaders..But Just like the scriptures i posted ,were only meant that God is not what most of the church likes to say about the Lord....Most people think God never causes people to be struck dead,they say thats not a God i want..Well scripture tells us there's the loving.long suffering,Good God..But Revelation 14: Talks of the angry,just God ..Revelation 14:19...But no nobody condemed Hugo Chavez..He has his part to play in these last days though...
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    Victory belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ. Worthy is the Lamb of God, for His blood paid for us all. Truly sad, and while I agree this man is deluded, the focus in my view is not on God's anger to those who curse Israel or deny God; that is for Him to act on. I pray for him, for if he truly sees the error of his ways, and falls on his knees before our powerful and Almighty God, praise the Lord for His mercy is ENDLESS and extends to even those who shake their fist at God. For if the shaking of their fist turns into shaking of their body in prayer and crying tears of contriteness to God, acknowledging HIS AUTHORITY and that HE WHO IS I AM loves, then the eyes of his heart will be opened.

    More and more, I feel the Holy Spirit compelling me to pray for the lost. They who are oblivious to what is coming, woe unto them who deny God. GOD PAID FOR US IN HIS SUFFERING. Wow, can I get an Amen? Seriously, the more I pray and think on what God has done...truly I am humbled.

    All glory and power belong to God the Father, who Was, and Is, and forever Will Be. I am not to judge, as I said, that belongs to God. Vengeance belongs to The Lord YHWH, for those who deny shall drink from the cup of his wrath. Woe unto those who shake their fist instead of their entire being shaking before God's Almighty Power. AMEN!

    Yes God can even bring murderers of His people to become His servants.

    Remember the Apostle Paul hunted down new believers in Christ and he was there at the stoning of Steven.

    Many who seem to be beyond salvation can be brought to their knees to repent and receive Christ.

    I hope and pray this man comes to Christ, Amen.

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    It sounds like someone struggling with his own mortality.

    Maybe God will use him for His own purpose.

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