Charles Krauthammer's observations on Obama

[WKUHilltopper]

I got this via email. And I know a lot of the times these emails are sometimes not reflective of reality, etc, but this one struck me. Even if this "meeting" was not conducted by Krauthammer, I can't say I disagree with the tenants or the direction this country is headed.

I've said on here before I expect that Obama will be re-elected, will then claim a mandate and the real tyrannical fun begins.

We're in for a world of hurt--and I wouldn't be surprised not headed toward civil war (which I believe that's what ObaMao wants in the first place). I know this egomaniac likes to compare himself with Lincoln--but if you recall history--it was because Lincoln was elected and headed to Washington was the reason why states started to secede. I think Obama sees or hopes for the same situation--thus why he touts himself as Lincoln.

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Fast Facts About Dr. Charles Krauthammer , MD

Born: March 13, 1950
Birthplace: New York City, New York
Raised in Montreal, Canada
Attended Mc Gill University and Harvard Medical School
1972 diving accident left him paralyzed from the neck on down.
Directed psychiatric research for the Carter administration
Began writing career in 1981 with The New Republic
Helped develop the "Reagan Doctrine" in the 80's
Appointed to Presidential Council on Bioethics in 2002

Dr. Charles Krauthammer , MD




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Dr. Krauthammer is frequently on the Fox News Channel. He is an M.D., a lawyer and is paralyzed from the neck down. A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room. What he says here is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. The ramifications are staggering for us, our children and their children.

Last Monday was a profound evening. Dr. Charles Krauthammer spoke to the Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned & articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal conservative and has received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post.

The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have summarized his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally.

Even 2 Dems at my table agreed with everything he said! If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid, feel free....
Summary of his comments:

1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask. The taking down of the Clinton dynasty was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton. He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself but rather tochange everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada .

4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION and NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal. Most scary is his healthcare program because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada .. God forbid!

5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he DOES, not what he says.
6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President, ever , who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!

7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush, from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while but will emerge strong. Republicans are pining for another Reagan but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense and State's Rights.
9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don't have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. TheMedia is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a Pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package. These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.
11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy. I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard but we're right on most issues and can reclaim our country before it's far too late.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their Constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln

Do yourself a long term favor. Send this to all who will listen to an intelligent assessment of the big picture. All our futures and children's futures depend on our good understanding of what is really going on in DC and our action pursuant to that understanding!!

It really IS up to each of us to take individual action!!

Start with educating your friends and neighbors

If you are not interested in justice or in truth
delete this . However,
If you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the
U.S. Constitution.
By all means, please. PASS it ON!

[Kenny64]

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their Constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln

There are a number of these saying's written by our founders that everyone should know and apply.

[mattfivefour]

Here is what Dr. Krauthammer says about this email:

"This account is neither accurate nor authoritative. My views on Obama are well known. I’ve explained them in a series of five columns. (See below.) This email is somebody putting his own ideological stamp and spin on my views.

"One giveaway of the superimposition of someone else's views on mine is the rather amusing use of phrases that I never use. To take just a few examples randomly: "God forbid," "far left secular progressive," “this is the first president ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!” “no country had ever spent themselves into prosperity,” and, the real doozy,"states rights.”

"My views are clearly spelled out in that series of columns and subsequent writings. Anyone who wants to know my views should consult those and not this email.

"Charles Krauthammer "

Obama: The Grand Strategy – April 24, 2009
The Sting, In Four Parts – April 17, 2009
Obama’s Ultimate Agenda – April 3, 2009
The Great Non Sequitur – March 6, 2009
The Obamaist Manifesto – February 27, 2009

Source: Krauthammer Response | Center of the American Experiment

[WKUHilltopper]

Here is what Dr. Krauthammer says about this email:

"This account is neither accurate nor authoritative. My views on Obama are well known. I’ve explained them in a series of five columns. (See below.) This email is somebody putting his own ideological stamp and spin on my views.

"One giveaway of the superimposition of someone else's views on mine is the rather amusing use of phrases that I never use. To take just a few examples randomly: "God forbid," "far left secular progressive," “this is the first president ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!” “no country had ever spent themselves into prosperity,” and, the real doozy,"states rights.”

"My views are clearly spelled out in that series of columns and subsequent writings. Anyone who wants to know my views should consult those and not this email.

"Charles Krauthammer "

Obama: The Grand Strategy – April 24, 2009
The Sting, In Four Parts – April 17, 2009
Obama’s Ultimate Agenda – April 3, 2009
The Great Non Sequitur – March 6, 2009
The Obamaist Manifesto – February 27, 2009

Source: Krauthammer Response | Center of the American Experiment

Well, that's what I thought. I still can't disagree with the points of the email tho.

[arapahoepark]

Here is what Dr. Krauthammer says about this email:

"This account is neither accurate nor authoritative. My views on Obama are well known. I’ve explained them in a series of five columns. (See below.) This email is somebody putting his own ideological stamp and spin on my views.

"One giveaway of the superimposition of someone else's views on mine is the rather amusing use of phrases that I never use. To take just a few examples randomly: "God forbid," "far left secular progressive," “this is the first president ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!” “no country had ever spent themselves into prosperity,” and, the real doozy,"states rights.”

"My views are clearly spelled out in that series of columns and subsequent writings. Anyone who wants to know my views should consult those and not this email.

"Charles Krauthammer "

Obama: The Grand Strategy – April 24, 2009
The Sting, In Four Parts – April 17, 2009
Obama’s Ultimate Agenda – April 3, 2009
The Great Non Sequitur – March 6, 2009
The Obamaist Manifesto – February 27, 2009

Source: Krauthammer Response | Center of the American Experiment

I kinda figured. The email didn't quite sound like things he would say or do....(krauthammer I mean)

[YeuEmMaiMai]

flat out disagree with #2- no matter who wrote it, there is absolutely no comparison between Regan (a great leader) and our current president

[WKUHilltopper]

flat out disagree with #2- no matter who wrote it, there is absolutely no comparison between Regan (a great leader) and our current president

I agree with what you say per se. However, I think "Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!" is right on it.

He will bald face lie to you without as much as a flinch--like when he addressed Congress the first time and said he was proud to present a budget with no ear marks--when the entire thing was nothing BUT ear marks. When he raises the debt in record clips and then addresses Congress "we need to reduce debt".

We're in a lot of trouble in this country.

[readyforhome]

Hmm, so he didn't write the E-Mail, but he actually does believe the things pretty much as they are stated in said E-Mail more or less. I guess I don't know why he is so upset. Then again it IS someone taking advantage of his views and it really wasn't the man himself who sent it.

I was talking to someone I know who is in the AD nusing program at a local junior college, and he gave the reasons why he didn't like Obama and the main thing was the fact that he promised tranparency and his administration has been anything but... The woman behind us was less than happy with what he was saying, as I have to guess this made us racists. We are both white and she was black and likely voted or Obama. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Voting for someone solely for the color of their skin is just as racist as NOT voting for someone because of the color of their skin. I'll not vote for him because I firmly believe 4 more years of this man will be devasating to this country. I could care less about what he looks like.

The facts should speak for themselves though as our debt has increased astronomically under Obama's first three years, and will likely continue to do so if/when he does get elected again. The countries in Europe who have these ultra-socialized programs are NOT in fact doing all that much better than the United States at the current moment. Otherwise the EU would not have to keep bailing out member nations. The main thing I keep thinking about is Greece, and the riots that have been going on there because of all of the austerity measures there.

The financial mess this country has gotten into is a combination of things and honestly cannot all be laid at the current President's feet. He has not helped though, and has in fact mad things worse. There are some people who like to claim that this man is the Antichrist, but I don't know. No one will know that for sure until he actually emerges.

Socialized medicine sounds all well and good, until the reality of it sinks in. I had one guy on Facebook from Canada who told us that he was sorry that we were having socialized medicine foisted upon us. Thet he wished that he could get his elderly parents out of that system. I wonder when a hip replacement became something that isn't considered vital? Can't really walk without it. Not being able to walk impedes many things that a person can and cannot do. I was watching a show about people with primordial dwarfism and the one girl who had it on the program had to wait four months before whe could get an MRI. MRI's are expensive; which is why I have such high hospital bills, but at least a person can go in and get one a lot sooner than that normally in a free market system. My lead instructor in the Pharmacy Technician program at the junior college I attended told us about her uncles visit to France where he developed Pneumonia. He was told to go home and prepare to die as he was too old and that they would not treat him. He got on a plane and flew all the way back to America where he was given a shot of antibiotics and was all better within a week.

From what I have seen and heard the singer payer model of health care will not in fact reduce prices and is just another means of control over the public. It sounds nice, and I appreciate the thought behind it but the actuality of said situation is much different. As far as the people who are noe going to be covered by the new health care laws, it seems they are going to be replaced by those who have lost health care provided by their employers as many are dropping said health care in lieu of all the onerous regulations that are being put forth by the new law.

All we can do is keep praying and waiting in the blessed hope.

[WKUHilltopper]

I was talking to someone I know who is in the AD nusing program at a local junior college, and he gave the reasons why he didn't like Obama and the main thing was the fact that he promised tranparency and his administration has been anything but...

You mean like how ObaMao promised the "Obamacare" deal would be transparent and the discussions would be aired on CSPAN--only to be a "closed door" process, a demand to vote for it in 24 hours after printing and precluding anyone who had the time to read and comprehend a 2,400 page document? The most shocking is we had a Congress that voted for a program and had zero clue what they were voting on.

Thet he wished that he could get his elderly parents out of that system. I wonder when a hip replacement became something that isn't considered vital?

Pretty soon, they'll be saying the elderly or the infirmed have a patriotic duty to die--think I'm kidding?

Here, globalist Bill Gates, explains death panels and how pulling the plug on a sick person can save teachers' jobs (as if a teacher would even see a penny of it anyway). But remember, death panels don't exist--but yet they do. Go figure...

[YeuEmMaiMai]

Bill Gates is right in a way.

When you are a burden upon society just to live those 3 extra months, it's NOT worth it as you are just being selfish. At some point one should make a decision to do the best you can to ease your suffering.. to burden others like that is NOT right...

We should be thankful for what time we were given, not be greedy and burden others for wanting more....

[WKUHilltopper]

Bill Gates is right in a way.

When you are a burden upon society just to live those 3 extra months, it's NOT worth it as you are just being selfish. At some point one should make a decision to do the best you can to ease your suffering.. to burden others like that is NOT right...

We should be thankful for what time we were given, not be greedy and burden others for wanting more....

No. Bill Gates is a sick puke.

That's exactly the precept of the Nazi's Lebensunwertes Leben (Life unworthy of life) philosophy.


This poster (from around 1938) reads: "60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from a hereditary disease costs the People's community during his lifetime. Comrade, that is your money too.

Just whack 'em all, eh?

[mattfivefour]

Bill Gates is right in a way.

When you are a burden upon society just to live those 3 extra months, it's NOT worth it as you are just being selfish. At some point one should make a decision to do the best you can to ease your suffering.. to burden others like that is NOT right...

We should be thankful for what time we were given, not be greedy and burden others for wanting more....

[SonSeeker]

If you think medical care is expensive now, just wait until it's free!

[YeuEmMaiMai]

No. Bill Gates is a sick puke.

That's exactly the precept of the Nazi's Lebensunwertes Leben (Life unworthy of life) philosophy.


This poster (from around 1938) reads: "60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from a hereditary disease costs the People's community during his lifetime. Comrade, that is your money too.

Just whack 'em all, eh?

Totally missed the point....as our current healthcare is setup, you do not directly pay for the care you receive. You pay a monthly premium that helps you offset the costs of receiving care when needed. Who do you think picks up the rest of the tab? The remaining members of society...

Personally I think it is not right for someone knowingly burden the rest of society with their medical expenses....In our family, we were taught that beyond a certain point, we are not going to burden society with excessive healthcare expenses. I have had at least 10 people die from cancer or strokes in my family so I am sure I have solid understanding of the issue at hand

More immediate family members and what they did

Grandma died from not being able to eat. She knew what was up and understood it was her time, she refused any further treatment because she knew there was no coming back when your brain no longer tells you how to properly eat food.

Grandfather died from massive stroke/heart attach after we removed life support, he was never coming out of that coma

Uncle died from massive stroke, he refused treatment beforehand via written declaration

Aunt died from brain cancer, she knew what was up and decided that since it wsa incurable stage to quit chemo and died peacfully some months later

Uncle died from liver failure, refused to be put on doner list becuase he knew it was his drinking that caused his problem

Uncle currently stage 4 bone cancer, has refused advanced treatment due to fact that you do NOT recover from that when you are 70+

Father had prostate cancer and decided that if cutting out the bad part did not resolve it, no further treatment would be accepted. Thankfully God took care of him and the surgery was a success.

[livin_in_the_Son]

I never really understood the debate between the health insurance that I have now, and the proposed socialized medicine of Obamacare. I remember getting accosted at the county fair by some woman who wanted me to sign a petition against it. She said that under Obama, if one of my kids had an ongoing medical condition, his care could be capped. My insurance now has a maximum benefit allowed for catastrophic illnesses...so no difference. His meds or treatment would need prior approval...same as it is now. Procedures, treatments all need prior approval, and the doctor has to explain how this treatment is necessary before he can have it done.

What I do know is that I have excellant coverage now, even with all these conditions, BUT his doctor accepts a total payment of $80 from the insurance company, but when I was self-pay...he ONLY accepted a payment of $550, per visit.

Plus when I gave birth, I got 6 weeks maternity leave at 30% pay, but my friend in Canada gets a year. A WHOLE YEAR! Obamacare might not be the answer, but neither is what I have now, even though I'm grateful to the Lord for providing my husband with a job that offers this insurance.

[mattfivefour]

I'll tell you that living for more than two years in Canada has turned Vicki's thinking around. She gets all the tests she needs, doesn't have to wait, and no medical treatment is refused. And for all of the medical care we have needed ... including a trip by ambulance, medical scans, and a stay in hospital, plus visits to specialists we have not had to fork out one red cent. It is all covered. We pay for it through our income tax and through our sales tax. Our total income and sales taxation runs about 32 percent. The equivalent total US taxes would be about 29-1/2 percent. That extra 2-1/2 percent we pay in taxes eliminates all worries about paying for medical care. It will always be there when we need it and even if we wind up spending months in hospital and having cardiac or brain surgery, or needing ongoing cancer treatment, we will never have to mortgage our house (or lose it) because of medical bills. We just won't have any.

[livin_in_the_Son]

See...I'm right there with ya matt...last year my son went through a horrific depression, at 10 yrs of age he told me that he wanted to kill himself. His disability makes life hard, and he was in turmoil. My ins. co. will pay $20 towards therapy...the doctors want the full payment of $150 paid by me. $20 bucks was all his life was worth to them. He has had to wait days and weeks for approval for a med that he NEEDS EVERYDAY. Thankfully the Lord has lifted him out of his depression, but what if it happens again? What if he doesn't tell me first? I am so thankful for the Lord for protecting him, because if I had to rely on my ins....he might be dead now.

[WKUHilltopper]

Totally missed the point....as our current healthcare is setup, you do not directly pay for the care you receive. You pay a monthly premium that helps you offset the costs of receiving care when needed. Who do you think picks up the rest of the tab? The remaining members of society...

Personally I think it is not right for someone knowingly burden the rest of society with their medical expenses....In our family, we were taught that beyond a certain point, we are not going to burden society with excessive healthcare expenses. I have had at least 10 people die from cancer or strokes in my family so I am sure I have solid understanding of the issue at hand

More immediate family members and what they did

Grandma died from not being able to eat. She knew what was up and understood it was her time, she refused any further treatment because she knew there was no coming back when your brain no longer tells you how to properly eat food.

Grandfather died from massive stroke/heart attach after we removed life support, he was never coming out of that coma

Uncle died from massive stroke, he refused treatment beforehand via written declaration

Aunt died from brain cancer, she knew what was up and decided that since it wsa incurable stage to quit chemo and died peacfully some months later

Uncle died from liver failure, refused to be put on doner list becuase he knew it was his drinking that caused his problem

Uncle currently stage 4 bone cancer, has refused advanced treatment due to fact that you do NOT recover from that when you are 70+

Father had prostate cancer and decided that if cutting out the bad part did not resolve it, no further treatment would be accepted. Thankfully God took care of him and the surgery was a success.

You didn't make a point to miss other than you believe decisions should be based on a "collective rights of the state" ...but yet, each item you listed were individual choices and not choices mandated by the state. Yes, our current health system is a set up--because this program we're moving toward is nothing else but about taxes and control. It has nothing to do with anything related to "care". They make the decision on what is best for them, not you.

[YeuEmMaiMai]

You didn't make a point to miss other than you believe decisions should be based on a "collective rights of the state" ...but yet, each item you listed were individual choices and not choices mandated by the state. Yes, our current health system is a set up--because this program we're moving toward is nothing else but about taxes and control. It has nothing to do with anything related to "care". They make the decision on what is best for them, not you.

I said you as an individual have no right to burden others just because you want to live. Before you go claiming what I believe, you had better read what I said and remember my pov is that it is up to the person do what is right.........It is better to make yourself right with God and accept your fate rather than to fight and place an undue burden on others while not making yourself right with God.......

Bill Gates is right, money is better spent on other things than trying to keep someone who is terminal alive an extra 3 months or so..... He appears to not have a relationship with God and thus chooses the wrong reasons.......

exaple a

baby is born 2 months early and needs medical care that will result in baby living a health long life

or

b spend money on 70+ year old with stage 4 cancer that will not survive


think about it for a second, would you

1. spend insane amounts of money to keep the person alive 3 months longer

or

2. take that money and ease the suffering of that person and then use the rest to keep baby alive?

I tell you what, I am a reasonable person and I personaly would not want money spent on me if I had stage 4 cancer other than what is needed to easse the pain. I would rather the money spent elsewhere as I have had a good life and thankful to God for the time He has given me..... It is better to place resources where the most good would be done from a Godly point of view.

Remember, even Godless men can have valid points......

It is better to give your life so that another may live and it is to be greedy and live at the expense of another..........

[WKUHilltopper]

I said you as an individual have no right to burden others just because you want to live. Before you go claiming what I believe,

I think you made it clear what you believe. And I do not advocate euthanasia nor eugenics in any form. Jews were considered to be burdens to "others" once too. I see no difference in application.

You contend "I had better read what you said and remember your pov is that it is up to the person do what is right". And what is the right thing to do--what you say is or claim is right? What the state says is "right"? And then you attempt to make inconsistent point by claiming "I said you as an individual have no right to burden others just because you want to live." So which is it? You don't have the right to make the decision as an individual because you might burden someone or is it up to the person to do the "right thing"? Right thing as long it meets YOUR standards?

But why wait until until someone is sick? They now can do "DNA health predictor tests". Get people 25 years of age and determine if they have the propensity to be a "burden on society" in the future. That way you can eliminate future costs, future medical attention and stop wasting medical resources by eliminating the "weak" and "future sick" now. Just line them up in a ditch, squeeze the trigger. You'll save beau coup dollars that way (ammo is cheap) and then you can hire bunches of teachers just like Bill Gates claims he wants.

Your example:
baby is born 2 months early and needs medical care that will result in baby living a health long life.

In your perfect socialistic "the state is supreme and its not right to burden the state" world--I say as a government cost administrator, your premature baby presents a risk to the state and cost structure. An early birth is not normally natural nor healthy. Thus I determine, since premature babies have a cost history of requiring additional and future medical care, it will represent a further burden on the state. Besides if this baby were born in the wild premature, the baby would die anyway--survival of the fittest. Thus I conclude and direct that no additional medical attention be afforded "it" because "it" is "life unworthy of life". Besides "it" will more than likely die anyway.

This is how the state will play this out.

I can assure you in a "managed care" system (in reality a "managed cost system") which I've spent 25 years in, one's health care is NOT a priority. This is particularly true in a government mandated and directed system.