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    Poll Finds 43 Percent Of People Believe God Helps Tebow Win « CBS Denver


    DENVER (CBS Denver) — Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow is not the only one who thinks God helps him on the football field.

    According to a national telephone survey conducted by Poll Position, 43 percent of people believe that “divine intervention” is responsible for his success compared to 42 percent of people surveyed who think that God has nothing to do with Tebow winning.


    Breaking it down into demographics, the Poll Position survey shows that 52 percent of people in the 18- to 29-year-old age range believe that supernatural powers help Tebow, while about 48 percent of people aged between 45-64 believe the same.

    Hispanic fans also feel that a holy power is helping the Broncos quarterback as 81 percent of those polled believe God is behind Tebow, compared to 59.5 percent among blacks and 38 percent among whites.

    Among party affiliation, 54 percent of Republicans polled believe God is helping Tebow while 48 percent of Democrats think there is no divine intervention going on.

    The poll surveyed 1,076 people.

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    I was talking to my coworker/friend and he stated that Tebow should not be showboating his faith like that and I would somewhat agree....I also understand that the media is going an awesome job of covering the man too.

    An example of showboating would be the Scriptures under his eyes and some other little things he does. Personally how he handles himself when he talks and how he lives his life is more than enough to get the point accross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I was talking to my coworker/friend and he stated that Tebow should not be showboating his faith like that and I would somewhat agree....I also understand that the media is going an awesome job of covering the man too.

    An example of showboating would be the Scriptures under his eyes and some other little things he does. Personally how he handles himself when he talks and how he lives his life is more than enough to get the point accross.
    I don't think he's show boating at all. Much in the same way I don't think Paul did either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I was talking to my coworker/friend and he stated that Tebow should not be showboating his faith like that and I would somewhat agree....I also understand that the media is going an awesome job of covering the man too.

    An example of showboating would be the Scriptures under his eyes and some other little things he does. Personally how he handles himself when he talks and how he lives his life is more than enough to get the point accross.
    Tim put scripture in his eye black in college.

    Did you want him to hide his light under a bushel?
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    Tebow did exactly the same things in college. He didn't get anywhere near the press coverage he is now. I think it's genuine and he just doesn't care who sees him. But only God can judge so it's none of my concern.

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    The vast majority of people still don't understand Christianity or the Bible which is why I think they find this so fascinating
    Tebow lives the life as one is supposed to, instead us stupid people regular people who don't want to be termed fundamentalists try to sweep it under the rug because of our american culture where since people are free to worship however we shouldn't put our beliefs on them/evangelize/witness.
    Rather sad you believe the opposite of me YeuEmMaiMai

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshaff View Post
    Tim put scripture in his eye black in college.

    Did you want him to hide his light under a bushel?
    I'm just saying that he might be letting it go too far... Last time I checked neither Jesus or Paul went around with Scriptures (or references to) painted on their bodies. Thier words and actions did all the talking that needed to be done.

    Does your local God-faring preacher constantly go out wearing Scriptures on their bodies? Try going to work like that and see what happens......most if not all of us would be repremanded or worse....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I'm just saying that he might be letting it go too far... Last time I checked neither Jesus or Paul went around with Scriptures (or references to) painted on their bodies. Thier words and actions did all the talking that needed to be done.

    Does your local God-faring preacher constantly go out wearing Scriptures on their bodies? Try going to work like that and see what happens......most if not all of us would be repremanded or worse....
    I see what your getting at, but what about those like me who where crosses? I see no harm, it was under his eye where they put their makeup or whatever it is. What I see is someone who will not give in to the world...
    yet, not trying to start an argument I do see where your coming from. Unfortunately, I think you think he's trying to bring attention to himself...whereas I don't, I think the media is just super fascinated by someone like this. The media drives the agenda in nearly everything, they tell people how to think, though not why usually....
    Now could he go too far, yeah I think so, being in the media I see this as a temptation to get attention, I hope he doesn't give in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I'm just saying that he might be letting it go too far... Last time I checked neither Jesus or Paul went around with Scriptures (or references to) painted on their bodies. Thier words and actions did all the talking that needed to be done.

    Does your local God-faring preacher constantly go out wearing Scriptures on their bodies? Try going to work like that and see what happens......most if not all of us would be repremanded or worse....
    Paul preached the Gospel by means of a Voice(and through writings).

    Tim's resources are different, thus he preaches by different Means.

    Do a search, let me know how many times you find the word compromise in the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I'm just saying that he might be letting it go too far... Last time I checked neither Jesus or Paul went around with Scriptures (or references to) painted on their bodies. Thier words and actions did all the talking that needed to be done.

    Does your local God-faring preacher constantly go out wearing Scriptures on their bodies? Try going to work like that and see what happens......most if not all of us would be repremanded or worse....
    I'm sorry but this really gets me to -> Why can't a Christian stand up for his faith without having to be criticized
    by another Christian??? Are you kidding me? It sounds like the Pharisees of Jesus day. "Why does he have to do
    all those miracles...he's just trying to be seen!"...You don't know that mans heart. You don't know if God told
    him to do what he's doing or not. I wish all Christians would stand up like Tebow has for his faith. He's been ridiculed
    and talked about. Not everyone is singing his praises and that includes you and you're a christian.



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    First of all in response to the OP ,no God could care less about who wins in sports ,especially such a violent one .But i believe he allows his
    word and glory to be shown through not just Tim ,but others who ar professing the Lord Jesus Christ !!.He is not over doing it ,all he says at his press conferences is
    first let me thank my Lord a savoir Jesus Christ,he don't force it ,he don't go on ,and on about sin ,he doesn't force it like other religions do!
    he just lives it out ,only God has given him the sports platform to do it..........

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    It's the percentages reported in the article that caught my attention. Those are significant numbers when applied to an American population that is now in excess of 300 million souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivnForChrist View Post
    I'm sorry but this really gets me to -> Why can't a Christian stand up for his faith without having to be criticized
    by another Christian???
    Are you kidding me? It sounds like the Pharisees of Jesus day. "Why does he have to do
    all those miracles...he's just trying to be seen!"...You don't know that mans heart. You don't know if God told
    him to do what he's doing or not. I wish all Christians would stand up like Tebow has for his faith. He's been ridiculed
    and talked about. Not everyone is singing his praises and that includes you and you're a christian.
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    I like Tebow and think he is an awesome role model for younger people. He is letting his light shine and that is the way it should be and he does apologize for doing so either. None of us should do that. Keep on going Tim.

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    Winning or loosing on the football field whether this week or next week will not impact Tim's witness. He continually points towards what is truly important in life and that Football is just a game.

    In terms of whether his witness is too strong, I have felt compelled and convicted in my own heart on a very specific verse:

    ‘I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. Revelation 3:15-16

    After the game last week, John 3:16 was near the very top on Google trends (Tim threw for 316 yards, 31.6 yards per completion, and there were 31.6 Million viewers). I would bet money that the number of Google searches for John 3:16 is the stat that Tim Tebow treasures most. Tim plays football and understands where it ranks in importance, and if he never played another snap I suspect that if you ran into him sometime afterward he would still be the same person.

    These debates being generated about the outward exhibit of faith should be particularly instructive to us as Christians. Any feelings it generates should be used to examine ourselves, in particular answering the question of whether we are hot or cold for our first Love, or are we lukewarm where we make Him want to spit us out of his mouth?

    Paul was mentioned earlier, we need to recall that the world didn't just stop at names and insults to try and stop Paul. Paul was beaten multiple times, stoned, jailed frequently, and suffered greatly for the Gospel. He did not stop nor did he seek his approval from man, and he most definitely should never be equated to not being bold with his faith in words and deeds.

    What we need to do as the Body of Christ is to include Tim Tebow in our prayers diligently. Satan tends to leave the lukewarm alone as they are no threat. The bold in Christ however are attacked anywhere evil can be stirred in hearts. This is about much more than a football game.
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    Excellent post Rescued. I totally agree. I hope that I didn't come off too strongly
    in my first post. If I did, I apologize but I get frustrated when I see Christians
    criticizing other Christians for standing up for Christ. It's one thing to examine
    some false teacher's/preacher's fruit but not to tear at someones witness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I was talking to my coworker/friend and he stated that Tebow should not be showboating his faith like that and I would somewhat agree....I also understand that the media is going an awesome job of covering the man too.

    An example of showboating would be the Scriptures under his eyes and some other little things he does. Personally how he handles himself when he talks and how he lives his life is more than enough to get the point accross.
    Under that logic, Peter, Paul and the rest of the Apostles, not to mention every single Christian who was murdered in the bloody Coliseum "games", every Christian listed in Foxe's Book of Martyrs, every single prophet that God sent, Noah, Enoch, Abel, all the heroes of faith mentioned in Hebrews 11, the "Ecuador Five" who were slain by the Waodoni Indians (Jim Elliot, Nate Saint, Ed McCully, Pete Fleming and Roger Youderian), every single martyr slain in the Middle East and Asia, each person who ever died for the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and of course Jesus Christ Himself, would ALL have been "showboating"

    Quote Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai View Post
    I'm just saying that he might be letting it go too far... Last time I checked neither Jesus or Paul went around with Scriptures (or references to) painted on their bodies. Thier words and actions did all the talking that needed to be done.

    Does your local God-faring preacher constantly go out wearing Scriptures on their bodies? Try going to work like that and see what happens......most if not all of us would be repremanded or worse....
    Jesus wears His own NAME on His clothing when He returns at Armageddon:

    "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." (Revelation 19:11-16, NASB, emphasis mine)

    If Jesus is not ashamed to wear His own name on his garments, and He IS the Word of God, then why would we ever be ashamed to wear scripture on ours, which is also the Word of God?

    This is what God says about His own Word:

    "The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times." (Psalm 12:6, NASB)

    "“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it." (Isaiah 55:10-11, NASB, emphasis mine)

    Lastly, this is what Jesus says about those ashamed of His words:

    "“For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” " (Mark 8:38, NASB, emphasis mine)

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    Hint: it wasn't work.

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    What's great about this is people are talking about the Lord Jesus Christ & Christianity
    the idea of putting John3:16 under his eyes is a great idea, especially since some college's wants to ban signs with Scripture from football games.

    Here are three Biblical reasons for Tim to do as he is doing.

    Proverbs 4:20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
    Proverbs 4:21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
    Proverbs 4:25 Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee.

    Those who may not know John3:16. Pray the Holy Spirit of God will stir their hearts and compell them to find what that verse of Scripture means.

    Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

    It will be interesting to see if the Broncos make it to the super bowl, wonder if NFL force Tebow to remove Scripture from under his eyes because some atheist complains, that its against his religion of non belief.

    2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.


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    8 These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.
    9 And after him was Eleazar the son of Dodo the Ahohite, one of the three mighty men with David, when they defied the Philistines that were there gathered together to battle, and the men of Israel were gone away:
    10 He arose, and smote the Philistines until his hand was weary, and his hand clave unto the sword: and the LORD wrought a great victory that day; and the people returned after him only to spoil.
    11 And after him was Shammah the son of Agee the Hararite. And the Philistines were gathered together into a troop, where was a piece of ground full of lentiles: and the people fled from the Philistines.
    12 But he stood in the midst of the ground, and defended it, and slew the Philistines: and the LORD wrought a great victory.

    Shammah stood his ground and defended a bean field because it was his bean field. Christians ought to stand up and defend Christianity, so the Lord can use us for His glory. I love these verses of Scripture for encouragement.

    1Ch 16:10 Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD.
    1Ch 16:24 Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations.
    Psa 96:3 Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all people.

    Psa 72:17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.
    Psa 72:18 Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel, who only doeth wondrous things.
    Psa 72:19 And blessed be his glorious name for ever: and let the whole earth be filled with his glory; Amen, and Amen.
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    The NFL already had a ban on items which would be considered "additions" to the uniform, so Tim could not wear the eye black as a Pro.

    Interestingly enough, when he played in the 2009 college National Championship and had John 3:16 on the eyeblack, it was googled over 90 million times in the next 24 hours. Of course with this level of interest conveyed during the game, the NCAA moved to ban any messages on eye black in 2010. Interesting how quickly they moved to ban it, I guess the world and its' ruler was not particularly happy about the amount of attention focused on Jesus...

    I had to chuckle once Tim threw for 316 yards, 31.6 yards per catch, and the broadcast had a peak Neilsen rating of 31.6 and the fact that 3:16 was once again the top of google trends in spite of the Pro ban on any written materials. Goes to show that God will bless those efforts worshipping Him in spirit and truth in spite of the efforts of this world to beat it down and hide it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescued by the Cross View Post

    I had to chuckle once Tim threw for 316 yards, 31.6 yards per catch, and the broadcast had a peak Neilsen rating of 31.6 and the fact that 3:16 was once again the top of google trends in spite of the Pro ban on any written materials. Goes to show that God will bless those efforts worshipping Him in spirit and truth in spite of the efforts of this world to beat it down and hide it.
    Makes you wonder sometimes...just like when the Dow tanked 777 points in 2008.
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