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    Israel FEASTS OF GOD How Deep Do They Go

    The more I study, the Deeper I see the Feasts of God go. I offer the following, as a starting point, in the hopes that more people have deeper understanding than I have. Please read, and jump right in, so we can see how deeply we can dive in this Pond called Biblical Understanding:

    My response and elaboration, to a question about Jesus' creation being Dec 25, not His birth:

    Robert, you ask: “...
    Has anyone heard that the conception of the Holy Spirit within Mary was December 25th., and Rosh Hashanah[feast of trumpets- in September was his true birth?I have been studying verification of this. The rabbi's believe their messiah will come on feast of trumpets. It makes December 25th. seem right being almost 9 months for childbirth, and the scriptures reinforced ,and explains a reason why Christmas was proclaimed for Jesus Birthday. All the feast days, and Jewish holy days seem to align Jesus's life, in fact the Old Testament tells the life of Jesus. Blessings, Robert”

    My response (with minor editing):

    """Mary's conceiving on December 25(ish) is deductulated through the study of John the Baptizer, and his father Zacharias's (priest in the 8th order, course of Abia(Luk 1:5)) encounter with Gabriel, at the Feast of Shavuot/Pentecost (Feast of Counting), when ‘selected,’ by lottery, to burn the 'Incense,’ in the Holy (Not the Holy of Holies). Elizabeth was six months into her pregnancy, per Gabriel to Mary, when Mary accepted her fate of condemnationable (not yet Snatched away by the Groom) pregnancy, punishable by stoning. Mary goes to visit Elizabeth about three months prior to Barley harvest (March(ish)), until JTB was born, and Zachariah regained his voice (scared the people out of their wit's end (a tad of humor)), and named his son, “Yochanan (John).” Mary returns home (Barley Harvest) three months pregnant (just beginning to ‘show’), and in all probability gave birth to Jesus on the Night (preceding the day part) of Tishri 15, Sukkot/Tabernacles.

    IMO Jesus could not have been born on Rosh Hashanah/Yom Teruah/Feast of Trumpets, for a couple of reasons: 1) Yom Teruah is the heralding of His Second Coming, reserved for Armageddon, as the cleansing/Justification of Israel, Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, is also reserved for after Armageddon. 2) A forgotten portion of the Feasts of God, the Eighth Day Feast, immediately following the seven days of Sukkot (first days of Life), which few people notice, or study. Perchance, IMO here, with no documented support, other than other opinions), this feast coincides with the Eighth Day after Birth, when the Mark of God is applied to the male child, belonging only to God, Circumcision? That would explain the day Jesus was born, the reason they were required to go to Jerusalem (Sukkot, and declared census/tax), and give celebratory reason for the Eighth Day Feast (which no man knows or understands the reason for the ‘day’) (ok, a play on words). (^8

    In conclusion, We, of the Western world, need out reminders put back in gear, as God reminds us, ‘Life, begins at ‘’Conception,’’ not air-breathing ‘’Birth’’. We are right in celebrating the Birth of Jesus, as Christmas, but it should be the "Conception of Christ-mass." IMHO, Jesus came, First Time, on Tishri 15, and I fully expect Him to arrive, His Second Coming, Tishri 1 (Yom Teruah/Rosh Hashanah) with all the Trumps of God Blaring to ‘High Heaven,’ and ALL things, of this Age closed out before Tishri 10 (Day of Atonement/Yom Kippur)(The Day Jubilee (number 120, by the way) is Declared. The three days between Yom Kippur, and Sukkot, are....yep....you...guessed....it.....the TIME OF PURIFICATION.... for GOD’s Tabernacle with Man, for HIS Millennial Kingdom Rule. AMEN

    Oh, what a time of days, we are entering, being a part of, with the BEST, yet to come, the Great Snatching, very very soon now, IMHO. Oh, and in answer to your question about hearing about Dec 25,,, heh-heh, Yep, I have; and have been trying to teach that information for quite a while, with no one in my locality, nor on the Forums, seemingly willing to discuss ‘conception.’

    While I have everyone’s attention, I pray, .... Has anyone ever been concerned about how to disprove Darwinian long flow adjustment thought?? Zola Levitt Ministries, and J. R. Church, both have teachings that takes gestation through the Feasts of God, exactly, a very-very worthy Christian tour of the birth of a child, and a walk through a small portion of how God Thinks, and organizes. I started to poeticize the gestation, but about mid-page two, I realized I would need write a book with only one poem in it, as it would need be at least 200 pages long. Ha....think I will wait a while until when no one will care, because they all already know the story....Heaven.

    In Messiah, I keep the Watch, and return to my studies of the events I believe I see coming at us like a light in a dark tunnel; rescue? Hopefully; disaster? Possibly. I am so tired of being wrong, I need a bit more conviction, before opening my Chicken-Little mouth again. I pray you see what I’m trying to convey, above."""

    I guess my question is: Has anyone else studied this aspect, above, and if so, do I err, or will you elaborate for better understanding by everyone?

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    Default Re: FEASTS OF GOD How Deep Do They Go

    Here's how it was explained to me once.

    7 Feasts in Leviticus 23

    The first 4 has already been fulfilled at Jesus' first coming and at His birth and then the last 3 are fulfilled at the Rapture of the church on thru the Tribulation to the Second Coming.

    Leviticus 23:5
    Passover was fulfilled at the Crucifixion...because Jesus is our Passover Lamb that was slain for the salvation of the world so that God could pass over us in Judgement and would not have to judge us because His blood is applied to our hearts. Needless to say, it was fulfilled at the exact hour and day that the high priest was to sacrifice the lambs in the temple.

    Leviticus 23:6-8
    Unleavened Bread was fulfilled at the Burial...I don't quite understand this one.

    Leviticus 23:9-14
    First-Fruits was fullfilled at Christ's resurrection...because Jesus is "the first-fruits of them that sleep." 1 Corinthians 15:20

    Leviticus 23:15-22
    Pentecost was fulfilled at the birth of the Church...Pent means 5. So essentially this feast took place 50 days after the previous one. And, exactly 50 days after Jesus' resurrection, the church was born.

    These have already been fulfilled. Now we go on to the yet unfulfilled feasts.

    Leviticus 23:23-25
    Feast of Trumpets is to be fulfilled possibly at the time when the church leaves the earth. Just as a side note, the period between the Feast of Pentecost and the Feast of Trumpets is known as The Time of Harvest in Jewish tradition. The Feast of Trumpets is also called the feast where no-man-knows the day or the hour. Why? Well, this feast did not have a set time like the others did. It lasted for three days. The priests were to be watching and waiting for the full moon to appear during those three days, and when it did, they were to blow the shofar. I know I had additional information on this feast somewhere, but I can't remember it all right now. Maybe later I'll remember and can add to this. Oh and one more thing: Trumpets are connected with the coming judgment. There are 7 trumpets which cover the Tribulation period, ending with the Return of Jesus to this earth.

    Leviticus 23:26-32
    Day of Atonement is to be fulfilled at the Second Coming.

    Feast of Tabernacles or also known as feast of booths. Going to be fulfilled during the Kingdom Age here on earth and the earth is back to it's pre-fallen state.

    Hope that helps! Here's an excellent view of the feasts in picture form with still more info:

    http://www.drbarrick.org/Website%20F...20Lev%2023.pdf
    Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me? Jeremiah 32:27

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    Default Re: FEASTS OF GOD How Deep Do They Go

    So now we are going to debate exactly when Mary concieved Jesus Christ?

    I understand people want to have exact dates and times but they are not given and are not important.

    If the exact date of conception of Jesus Christ was important it would have been Prophecised in the Old Testament and confirmed to us when the Gospels were recorded.

    Yes the Feasts are important but not to just give us some exact dates and times so we can justify the Catholic Christmas. You know the Eastern Orthodox hold Christmas day on January 7th and they use not the New Roman Catholic or Gregorian calender with the extra months given to us by the Pope, they pride themselves in using the original Julian Calendar so they think they are more accurate than the Catholics.

    Our times and dates are so out of sync with what was used at the time of Jesus it really doesn't matter what date you think was the birth of Jesus or his conception because using the Gregorian or Julian calendar you will be wrong. The Jews use a calendar based on Lunar cycles.

    The Change from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar
    The Gregorian calendar, which is the calendar used today, was first introduced by Pope Gregory XIII via a papal bull in February 1582 to correct an error in the old Julian calendar.

    This error had been accumulating over hundreds of years so that every 128 years the calendar was out of sync with the equinoxes and solstices by one additional day.

    As the centuries passed, the Julian Calendar became more inaccurate. Because the calendar was incorrectly determining the date of Easter, Pope Gregory XIII reformed the calendar to match the solar year so that Easter would once again "fall upon the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the Vernal Equinox.".

    Ten days were omitted from the calendar to bring the calendar back in line with the solstices, and Pope Gregory XIII decreed that the day following Thursday, October 4, 1582 would be Friday, October 15, 1582 and from then on the reformed Gregorian calendar would be used.

    The Catholic countries of Italy, Poland, Portugal, and Spain immediately observed the calendar change, but for almost two hundred years Protestant countries refused to change to the new calendar because it had reformed by a Catholic Pope. The Greek Orthodox countries didn't make the change until the start of the 20th century.

    Change from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian Calendar. Explanation of calendar change plus year when each country made the change to the Gregorian calendar at Ancestor Search
    Forget trying to tie up Catholic or Eastern Orthodox calendar dates to Jewish Feasts and events. We know only general seasons and what the Jews were generally doing around the time of various significant events.

    Even the Jewish calendar of today is not 100% in sync with when Jesus was born and lived on Earth. So we cannot determine 100% even with a Jewish calendar exactly when Jesus was born let alone when Mary conceived. (BTW as any parent will tell you the baby doesn't arrive exactly 9 months to the day after it was conceived you know, babies have a habit of being born when they want to arrive.)

    The Jewish Feasts are very significant. Let us not get side-tracked with trying to DATE things.

    The Hebrew calendar (הלוח העברי ha'luach ha'ivri), or Jewish calendar, is a lunisolar calendar used today predominantly for Jewish religious observances. It determines the dates for Jewish holidays and the appropriate public reading of Torah portions, yahrzeits (dates to commemorate the death of a relative), and daily Psalm reading, among many ceremonial uses. In Israel, it is an official calendar for civil purposes and provides a time frame for agriculture.

    Originally the Hebrew calendar was used by Jews for all daily purposes, but following the conquest of Jerusalem by Pompey in 63 BCE (see also Iudaea province), Jews began additionally following the imperial civil calendar, which was decreed in 45 BCE, for civic matters such as the payment of taxes and dealings with government officials.

    The Hebrew calendar has evolved over time. For example, until the Tannaitic period, the months were set by observation of a new crescent moon, with an additional month added every two or three years to keep Passover in the spring, again based on observation of natural events, namely the ripening of barley to reach the stage of "aviv" (nearly ripened crop).[1] Through the Amoraic period and into the Geonic period, this system was displaced by mathematical rules. The principles and rules appear to have been settled by the time Maimonides compiled the Mishneh Torah in the 12th century.

    Because of the roughly eleven-day difference between twelve lunar months and one solar year, the length of the Hebrew calendar year varies in a repeating 19-year Metonic cycle of 235 lunar months, with an intercalary lunar month added according to defined rules every two or three years, for a total of 7 times per 19 years. Seasonal references in the Hebrew calendar reflect its development in the region east of the Mediterranean and the times and climate of the Northern Hemisphere. The Hebrew calendar year is longer by about 6 minutes and 25+25/57 seconds than the present-day mean solar year, so that every 224 years, the Hebrew calendar will fall a full day behind the modern solar year, and about every 231 years it will fall a full day behind the Gregorian calendar year.

    Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Feasts have been central to the fulfillment of prophecy. Kingsbloomingrose has listed them off for us, thanks.

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