I have not been on here for a while, but if ever a time came when I could use some help, it would be now. I have been in discussions with an ex-Christian site, and most questions I believe, with the help of the Lord, can find reasonable answers for. However, here is a question that I cannot find a solution for. I know Matt, though, like all Christians, we do not see eye to eye on everything, I know he is gifted with much knowledge from God. Perhaps him, or anybody else out there that can help, can give me some ideas on this:
5And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,
6And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented.
7And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.
8The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
9For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
10When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
11And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
13And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
1Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum.
2And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.
3And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.
4And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:
5For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.
6Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof:
7Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto thee: but say in a word, and my servant shall be healed.
8For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
9When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
10And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.
Now in the Matthew version, we see the centurion speaking directly with Jesus Christ, a direct conversation with the Maker. By reading Matthew alone, you could not see it any other way.
Now in Luke, we see Jesus talking with the centurion's Jewish elders and the centurion's friends. By reading the Luke passage in context, one can not place any direct conversation between the centurion and Jesus, even down to the last verse of this account in Luke.
Now I have read many possible explanations, but it usually concludes one of two things. (1) The bible is not 100% reliable and therefore since part of the bible is factually wrong (Matthew or Luke) than none of the bible can be trusted. (2) Putting Luke or Matthew in where it does not fit in context, there fore making what hopefully would be a reasonable answer, it becomes an excuse instead.
Now I am very aware of the fact that none of the stories in the bible are or give a full account, and therefore we must often fit pieces together to make for more of the complete story, and therefore all facts do not need to be accounted for to make a story true. However, in this case, Matthew seems to give no break for a break in.
One could say Matthew was not saying that the centurion approached Jesus as soon as Jesus entered town, but at some point while there. Now after researching this possibility, it could work, but it still does not take away the latter account in Luke when the centurion sends out friends to talk to Jesus, and after wards, Jesus sends the centurion's friends back home.
I know the storY of who the centurion was in regards to being a gentile and how Jesus would be "unclean" if He were to enter the house according to Jewish law. I realize that is probably part of the reason he sent some Jewish elders. In any event, keeping Matthew's conversation intact, one cannot place the Luke account to fit that I can see. It would be easy if there was not such completeness in Luke"s account, but such is the way it reads, even using Greek, I just cannot fit the two passages together.
This site I am on, these people are very smart, and many already know the bible well, and they certainly know when something does not make much sense.
CAN YOU HELP ME PUT THIS PUZZLE TOGETHER?