What Ordinances Are Christians Are to Keep?

[Elijah's Mantle]

catholic word of faith and pentecostal and that one Episopal maybe Epistles is the right word

I am just a Believer in Jesus Christ so all I can call mine is Im a believer so I dont fit so well among religious peoples that have tittles and the such I think the fact of that causes me trouble and I dont want to offend nobody that has a tittle or a religion of some kind , but I dont want to get beat up cause I dont have one either

[mattfivefour]

EM, if you are a believer in Christ then that is the only name you need. Nothing else matters and nobody can ever beat you up because the One whose name you bear—Jesus Christ—is the best name of all.

[jesuschangesall]

thank u for the confirmation and encouragement

I surely need it

Ive been spiritually in the dung heap of struggling lately

A lot of confussion

and I may have accepted some things formerly that was told to me by religious folks that basically have a lot of religion but not much sense

I can not find in my Bible the basis for some things practiced

so I was able to get more understood as to why I feel so condemned as a defeat and a horrible failure when it comes to keeping with religion's rules

Any way may God Bless you for your encouragement and help about ordinances

one thing you stated that sticks is knowledge puffs up and religion kills

I agree

the most dead I ever felt in my life was when I was surrounded by a bunch of religious folks who for the most part enjoyed dividing minds joints and all other things dividable like hearts presominatly to promote there own brand of religious TITTLE SHIPS

I could not keep well with the program so I was thrown over board and branded a lost cause on the account of the fact I rebelled against the authority that would have most likely of had me reciting something like cat a cisms with a particuliar note of a hiss that made me cringe in my sleep

You got JESUS,HE has got YOU...DO NOT FRET,DO NOT FEAR...HE LOVES YOU IMMENSELY,and we do too!

[mattfivefour]

You got JESUS,HE has got YOU...DO NOT FRET,DO NOT FEAR...HE LOVES YOU IMMENSELY,and we do too!

Roberto, my friend, you are not only an artist, you are a poet. And don't know it!

[Robert]

catholic word of faith and pentecostal and that one Episopal maybe Epistles is the right word

I am just a Believer in Jesus Christ so all I can call mine is Im a believer so I dont fit so well among religious peoples that have tittles and the such I think the fact of that causes me trouble and I dont want to offend nobody that has a tittle or a religion of some kind , but I dont want to get beat up cause I dont have one either

Denominations are the long cold fires of where the Holy Spirit once was. Men see where the Holy Spirit stops for a moment, and attempt to set up a fence there, thinking that is THE truth. But the Holy Spirit keeps moving on, and where he stops shows us one ASPECT of the truth.

EM, don't worry about not having a title or a religion; those are things of men. What we have is of God, and that is what matters. I used to think I couldn't say much on matters of faith because I had no theological degree or ordination. But those that the Lord used in the bible only needed ordination from him; they didn't need any degree or proclamation from men. And neither do you.

Matt: I'm sure I messed up the explanation about denominations, So if I get blasted, kindly scoop up my ashes and include them in a memorial cheeseburger.

[mattfivefour]

Matt: I'm sure I messed up the explanation about denominations, So if I get blasted, kindly scoop up my ashes and include them in a memorial cheeseburger.

I know this will break your heart, bro: but there is no memorial cheeseburger coming. You nailed the denominational thing right on the head.

[MikeD]

"ok I will look that word up (Nicolatans) and see if they fit the desription of them same ones that hated me because I dont got no kind of a religious tittle
like they all had "

Elijah' Mantle, when I read your post here one thing hit my heart like a big BOLT OF LIGHTNING!!

"... because I don't got no kind of a religious title"; seemed as tho' the Lord said, OH MY LITTLE ONE GETS IT!! The ONLY so called "religious title" that a person needs is MY BLOOD BEING POURED ALL OVER THEM!!

Let others practice their "religions" as they will. But YOU, keep stead fast in the realization of the love of Jesus Christ and His covering over you. Other than that, what more do we need???

[Enow]

catholic word of faith and pentecostal and that one Episopal maybe Epistles is the right word

I am just a Believer in Jesus Christ so all I can call mine is Im a believer so I dont fit so well among religious peoples that have tittles and the such I think the fact of that causes me trouble and I dont want to offend nobody that has a tittle or a religion of some kind , but I dont want to get beat up cause I dont have one either

One can consider the question then: How are we identified as the children of God?

Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. ... 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

1 John 3:9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

Colossians 3:1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

As the just shall live by faith in the Son of God and all His promises to us: may we get to know Him and the power of His resurrection when we love our enemies and do good to those that persecute us and despitefully use us.

In these latter days, just being a witness of the Son to stand apart from those exalting another name up there with Jesus' is why we need the Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him so that only His name is above every other name.

[Robert]

"ok I will look that word up (Nicolatans) and see if they fit the desription of them same ones that hated me because I dont got no kind of a religious tittle
like they all had "

Elijah' Mantle, when I read your post here one thing hit my heart like a big BOLT OF LIGHTNING!!

"... because I don't got no kind of a religious title"; seemed as tho' the Lord said, OH MY LITTLE ONE GETS IT!! The ONLY so called "religious title" that a person needs is MY BLOOD BEING POURED ALL OVER THEM!!

Let others practice their "religions" as they will. But YOU, keep stead fast in the realization of the love of Jesus Christ and His covering over you. Other than that, what more do we need???

When the blood of the King has been poured upon you and you are sealed by the Holy Spirit, anything in the world of men, titles included, pales in comparison.

[Elijah's Mantle]

One can consider the question then: How are we identified as the children of God?

Galatians 3:14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. ... 26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

1 John 3:9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

Colossians 3:1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. 5Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

As the just shall live by faith in the Son of God and all His promises to us: may we get to know Him and the power of His resurrection when we love our enemies and do good to those that persecute us and despitefully use us.

In these latter days, just being a witness of the Son to stand apart from those exalting another name up there with Jesus' is why we need the Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him so that only His name is above every other name.

Enow you give really good scriptures to read lately Ive been grabbing them up for writing them on my heart , something soundingthealarm put out for every one that makes me realize
I guess best I can say it is some ordinances are very profitable for believers and Ive given thought on how we are identified as the Children of God the one scripture 1 John 3:9 is a scripture that is very awesome yet at the same time of reading it I could not help but reflect on what Paul stated in the book of Romans also in addition and your so right there is one name EXALTED ABOVE ALL NAMES JESUS OUR LORD CHRIST AND SAVIOR and just as Jesus gave the new command that we Love one another yes his ordinances are like his commands
I guess that was what I desired to ask about
are ordinances just as Jesus commands ?

[Hannah]

Actually pride comes before destruction and haughtiness before a fall.

PR 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

It is a common mistake most people make when quoting that saying.

Now to your main article:-

GAL 2:17 "If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19 For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Not perfect just forgiven. I try my best each day and at times I fail and miserably so. Praise God for His grace. I then pick myself up, dust myself off and try again. Some days I have more success than others living my life for the Lord. I will be honest today is not one of them, depressed and a bit short with people. Maybe tomorrow I'll be better I hope.

[Elijah's Mantle]

In studying the book of John what it says ....1John 3:7 " little children let no man deceive you"......The entirety of this given Epistle is a WARNING against antinomianism ...which teaches that sin doesn't matter because grace covers it
Jesus saves From sin , not in sin Romans 6:14 ... by what Jesus did at the cross , sin will not have dominion over us
Righteousness and Love are the two manifestations of the child of God and is what identifies them
the message heard from the beginning ,and so there we find the first attribute made evident in a born again
Not as Cain who was of that wicked one and slew his brother

the word makes it evident that if one says they love you yet they slay you then the truth of the new covenant is not in them neither is it made manifest or made evident that such a one is born again of the spirit manifest in Christ Jesus

man has made may ordinations which is for the convenience of giving exaltation to social order as ordered by leaders of power offend that and you may find yourself slain just as Able was

to me it is proof enough that when there is superior and inferior ..... man makes a choice .... either to go the way of what Jesus Christ commanded ... to love their brother ... or to go the way of satan and slay their brother .

The one made more over evident to me is because I have had the superior over me do as Cain did , I never believed from that time on that that was a Holy Spirit filled born again person who was following Jesus Christ and abiding in him .......... the word confirms it to me and so I know that not every one saying they are in Christ Jesus is really sadly enough its more over evident to me that the ones who believe Grace covers them may well in fact be entertaining self deception and on that note I would do well to pray for those who would slay me to disobey what man commands of me is one thing yet for the man who would place demand to make the choice to do away with (slay) a brother was a man making a choice to go the way of rebellion against what Jesus commands and only makes one thing more over evident to me .... that man has chosen who he serves his god of self
which is not of Jesus Christ and what Jesus commanded .......It helps me to identify with what Jesus would not restore back in my life
and I can avoid totally being deceived into believing those that made the choice they did were ever brethren who obeyed Jesus Christ or follow his commanded ordinances

[Elijah's Mantle]

Now to your main article:-

GAL 2:17 "If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19 For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
Not perfect just forgiven. I try my best each day and at times I fail and miserably so. Praise God for His grace. I then pick myself up, dust myself off and try again. Some days I have more success than others living my life for the Lord. I will be honest today is not one of them, depressed and a bit short with people. Maybe tomorrow I'll be better I hope.

you therefore need a hug for well keeping

there is many times I fail miserably too honest confession

[Elijah's Mantle]

When the blood of the King has been poured upon you and you are sealed by the Holy Spirit, anything in the world of men, titles included, pales in comparison.

Robert you nailed it down for sure
ten cheeseburgers coming right up

Its by what Jesus did we can give Glory to God we are saved from any sin

[Elijah's Mantle]

to read all about that big word I used to desribe what the word of John was giving warning about when he said little children be not deceived

Antinomianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Elijah's Mantle]

Ephesians 2:15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Colossians 2:14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

These scriptures given is what I would LOVE to study on more

[Elijah's Mantle]

Originally Posted by MikeD View Post
"ok I will look that word up (Nicolatans) and see if they fit the desription of them same ones that hated me because I dont got no kind of a religious tittle
like they all had "

Elijah' Mantle, when I read your post here one thing hit my heart like a big BOLT OF LIGHTNING!!

"... because I don't got no kind of a religious title"; seemed as tho' the Lord said, OH MY LITTLE ONE GETS IT!! The ONLY so called "religious title" that a person needs is MY BLOOD BEING POURED ALL OVER THEM!!

Let others practice their "religions" as they will. But YOU, keep stead fast in the realization of the love of Jesus Christ and His covering over you. Other than that, what more do we need???

When the blood of the King has been poured upon you and you are sealed by the Holy Spirit, anything in the world of men, titles included, pales in comparison.

that is so right Brother Robert that is all a person ever needs
we should never make anything the object of our Faith except the cross of Christ and what he atoned for on the cross for that is also what makes the one new man ....Jesus reconciled both into God one body by the cross is what I am reading right in Gods word .... It is by the atonement Jesus made that both are reconciled to God what Grace what Love abounding Jesus Loved us that much

[Hannah]

you therefore need a hug for well keeping

there is many times I fail miserably too honest confession

Thanks Elijah's Mantle. Your hug much appreciated.