Promise Keepers

[Robert Cragg]

On another forum I used a small booklet produce by Promise Keepers. I only said the material was put out by promise keepers.
Basically so there would be no problem copy right.
The basic format was how to be a man or woman of Integrity and how it helps us to become a better christian. I would write the Short teaching everyday from the booklet and then at the end, I would add My thoghts or replies.
I got blasted by a few people on how PK is an bad organsation and I was causing more burdens for people and that was basically sinfull to use PK material. After about 3-4 weeks I dropped it and left it go.

I just wondered if anyone here would have any thoughts on this good or bad. I'm not looking to get in a debate with anyone.
I just looking for some imput positive or negative is find.

I feel some what ok as a Bible Study Teacher and would like to work at it here alittle bit Not buy using the PK material but I feel I might just have some different teachings I would like to try here unless there is objections.

[WartHog]

Robert, I don't know anything about PK. I have heard of them, but really know nothing. However, it sounds like a good thing you want to do here. I would be interested in following along.

[Robert Cragg]

Robert, I don't know anything about PK. I have heard of them, but really know nothing. However, it sounds like a good thing you want to do here. I would be interested in following along.

I will come back later with more details.
Thank You,
Brother Robert

[Robert Cragg]

I changed my idea to a class intitled Personal Holiness in times of Temtation. You can find it under this same area.
Thank You
Robert

[mattfivefour]

To me the biggest problem with Promise Keepers is that their methods, while purportedly Biblical, are in fact based on new-age male bonding and self-discovery therapies. They also promote initiation rites to manhood. Additionally, PK creates pyramid structures of authority to which a man must bind himself, promising submission to his leader who can exercise authority in every area of the man's life, including in the bedroom. The man thus gives up all privacy in his family life and in his intimate life. As such it is totally non-Biblical ... although it twists a few scriptures to try and justify its practices.

Just as disturbing is that PK has strong ties to the so-called apostolic charismatic "Kansas City Prophets" movement.

[Michael777]

When they were in Grand Rapids about four years ago, it was going to cost $89 per adult person to attend, not including parking in downtown Grand Rapids, which is pretty notorious for charging a lot to park.

Mike

[Carl]

Promise Keepers started as a good Christian growth group for men.

From Wikipedia: Promise Keepers was founded in 1990 by Bill McCartney, then the head football coach at the University of Colorado at Boulder. According to the group's website, McCartney got the inspiration for Promise Keepers on March 20, 1990, while he was attending a Fellowship of Christian Athletes banquet in Pueblo, Colorado, during a conversation with Dave Wardell, who was also in attendance at the event. He envisioned his home stadium, Boulder's Folsom Field, would be used as a gathering "for training and teaching on what it means to be godly men". In July 1990, 72 men met at Boulder Valley Christian Church in Boulder to organize what would be Promise Keepers' first event at University of Colorado's Event Center. From that point, the Promise Keepers' membership gradually grew. By the time of the first official PK conference in July 1991, approximately 4200 attended. The organization was incorporated as a nonprofit in the state of Colorado in December 1990.

The prayer group that members were encouraged to form were for accountability. I went to one meeting and no longer remember a lot of what was said. My BiL is still active with his prayer group. My understanding is that the group that you formed/joined with was one that you would be comfortable in. One that you could share your more personal sins with so that you would have help to deal with them.

The big problem in PK is that some of the spirituality that McCartney brought in was less that mature and honest Christian.