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Matt Chandler & seeker pastor Perry Noble in Elephant Room: Internet Bloggers Can't Call Out False D
they why arent pastors and elders doing it then?
and what do u do when a pastor is a false teacher.
the only reason odmers came to be, is pastor and elders refused to speak out against false teachings.
to those in Omaha Nebraska area reading this who go to UCC churches or UMC churches or Seeker Driven or Emergent churches here: I am doing what church pastors and elders refuse to
call out false teachings and warn people about false teachers. if Church leaders dont like me calling out false teachers, than start speaking out against false teachers.
I will not keep quiet when I see false teachings being peddled and we have enablers who call themselves church leaders who should know better enabling the problem and promoting false teachers and false teachings
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FBC Jax Watchdog: Chandler and Noble in Elephant Room: Internet Bloggers Can't Call Out False Doctrine, Only Pastors and Elders Can
Chandler and Noble in Elephant Room: Internet Bloggers Can't Call Out False Doctrine, Only Pastors and Elders Can
In case you missed it, earlier this year in the "Elephant Room" open forum hosted by James MacDonald
and Mark "I see church members having illicit sex" Driscoll, Perry Noble and Matt Chandler said some very interesting things about just who in Christianity is and who is not allowed to call out pastors for their false doctrines and nutty, even abusive practices.
You see, as Al Mohler pointed out in the FBC Jax Pastor's Conference this year, pastors apparently are "God-appointed agents" to deliver God's word to the unlearned pew sitter.
Thus, pew sitters and the lowly "Internet bloggers" are not allowed to call out false doctrine. Perry says only "pastors, elders, leaders of the church" are allowed to call out error.
If you give these guys say another 100 years or so, they will establish another Catholic church where the pope and the church God-appointed hierarchy delivers God's word to the masses.
In the clip below you'll hear Perry say:
Perry Noble and Matt Chandler: Bloggers Who Live With Mom Aren't Qualified to Call Out False Doctrine on Vimeo
"Pastors, elders, leaders of the church should be the ones, if error is going to be called out, not based on their personal preference, but on doctrinal accuracy."
Perry Noble and Matt Chandler: Bloggers Who Live With Mom Aren't Qualified to Call Out False Doctrine on Vimeo
If error is going to be called out? IF? Perry probably hasn't read Acts 17:11 where church members were commended in how they checked the accuracy of what they were hearing against the Bible.
Sure, Perry would like to limit criticism to his pastor friends, and to leaders and elders that worship him and wouldn't dare to cross him.
Then Perry says:
"I don't think that God raised up Internet bloggers to call out wolves - who have an opinion and a website."
This is more of the whining of pastors who dish it out but can't take it. Noble and his emergent mega church pals are experts at using social media to get their message out
They hire marketing experts to brand their church, they blog, they Tweet, they have video podcasts. They write books, then they travel to each others' churches to push their books.
They hold seminars like the "Elephant Room" to influence other pastors.
They have virtually unlimited resources to get their message out, and yet they declare that Christian Internet bloggers shouldn't use the same social media to call out their false doctrine or even express criticism of the methods they use.
Sorry, Perry. If you believe God has blessed you with the social media you use to evangelize, then you better accept that God will use Internet bloggers to point out your error, and to criticize you
God is using bloggers like Wartburg Watch and Wade Burleson and Chris Rosebrough and Christa Brown and others to shine a light on false doctrine, nutty church practices, and abusive church systems and to speak plain truth about mega churches and egomaniac preachers.
Praise God for the "Internet bloggers". They are doing a great service to Christianity.
When I hear guys like Noble and Chandler popping off about bloggers, it lets me know that Internet bloggers ARE doing good, and are making a positive impact on the church
And in the video, you'll also hear Matt Chandler say that Internet bloggers get no support from him because they are people who "live with their moms." Hardy-har-har
Also, in the video, at the end, you can watch Al Mohler deliver his statement from the 2011 FBC Jax Pastor's Conference about just how important preachers are to the salvation of souls. Al's quote:
"...we believe that those who teach and preach the word of God are God-appointed agents to save God's people from ignorance....life and death, heaven and hell, hang in the balance.
If you do not faithfully teach the word of God such that your people hear it and understand it and grow upon it, they are consigned to unfaithfulness and many will be consigned to hell."
No wonder these guys want no criticism. Their work is so important - heaven and hell are in the balance! If they don't do their jobs, or if we point out that they are NOT God's anointed, church members will fall into unfaithfulness (meaning they leave the mega churches?) and many will be consigned to hell.
Yes, a pastor's poor preaching will cause people to burn forever in eternal torment.
We need pastors to tell us what the Bible says, and to criticize them is to criticize God himself. No wonder these guys have huge egos.
Speaking of the FBC Jax Pastor's Conference, did you know that live video feed of the next "Elephant Room" round table discussion moderated by Mark "I see church members having illicit sex" Driscoll will be one of the options for attendees at the FBC Jax 2012 Pastor's Conference?
It is true. Mac and Trey Brunson have decided to use the FBC Jax Ruth Lindsay Auditorium to expose SBC pastors at their conference to the likes of Driscoll, T.D. Jakes, Steven Furtick, and James MacDonald.
FBC Jax Pastor's Conference attendees: click here for more information on how you can pay $59 extra dollars to sit at the feet of T.D. Jakes and Steven Furtick and Mark Driscoll in the Ruth Lindsay Auditorium while in town for the pastor's conference.
Hosting the Elephant Room is a new low for the FBC Jax Pastor's Conference.
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