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    Why are Christians Following a Cult Member Named Glenn Beck?
    Contact: Bill Keller, 727-420-7005, bkeller@liveprayer.com



    ST PETERSBURG, Fla., Dec. 12, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- Bill Keller, the world's leading Internet Evangelist and the founder of LivePrayer.com, with over 2.4 million subscribers worldwide reading the daily devotional he has written every morning for 12 years on the issues of the day from a Biblical worldview, is warning Christians that entertainer Glenn Beck is Satan, "masquerading as an angel of light," and using Christians to further his agenda and advance the satanically inspired cult he belongs to.



    Five years ago before most people even knew who Glenn Beck was, Keller was publicly warning people that this proud member of the Mormon cult had an agenda rooted in the false beliefs of his cult, and was using mostly Christians that he attracted through his conservative political beliefs and by tapping into the tea party movement to carry that agenda out.



    Keller stated, "Beck has finally exposed his true motivations with the unveiling of his 'charity' and latest money-making scheme at Cowboy Stadium in Dallas next July.


    That is to make hundreds of millions of dollars personally while helping to advance the cause of his cult that is leading the eternal souls of men to hell through their heretical beliefs."

    Keller said, "To understand Beck you have to understand what he and those in his cult believe, beliefs that are 100% inconsistent with Biblical Christianity.



    The Mormon cult teaches a works-based salvation, that they are a lost tribe of Israel explaining why Beck and Mormons have such an affinity for Israel,


    and the 'white horse prophecy' of their cult's historically documented murdering, racist, polygamist, and pedophile founder Joseph Smith who prophesied that the United States will face tremendous financial and social upheaval


    and a Mormon will be elected President (Smith once ran for President as did Mitt Romney's father) who will suspend the US Constitution and enact a Mormon theocracy."




    "These beliefs that Beck clearly embraces as do all those in his cult, fully explain his apocalyptic teachings. Beck views himself as a modern day Paul Revere or Moses guided by God.


    Actually, Beck is being guided by Satan while making tens of millions annually, mostly from gullible Christians, scaring people into buying gold, safes, and food insurance, and now asking them to donate to his new charity." Keller stated.



    Keller has been critical of high-profile Christian leaders who Beck has bought off to give him credibility with true Biblical Christians.


    Men like Wallbuilder's David Barton, Christian TV pastor John Hagee, and a host of pastors and others who Keller claims "have sold out the faith like Judas to give this cult member credibility within the Christian community."



    Keller went on, "Beck has been very clever to find Christians he can buy off by promoting their books and ministries on his radio and TV programs enabling them to make money from his audience.



    In exchange, they help Beck further his lie that he is a Christian, when based on the teachings of the Mormon cult, a Mormon is no more a Christian than a Muslim is."




    "Beck and all Mormons believe their 'god' was once a man, and that they too can become a god when they die.


    Their 'jesus' is not the Jesus of the Bible, but a created being who is the brother of Lucifer who they claim came to the United States and say will return to Independence, Missouri, all in total contradiction to what the Bible teaches," Keller said.



    He goes on, "Beck says, 'the truth lives here,' when in fact he lies every time he calls himself a Christian.


    He understands that the vast majority of the last two generations have never been to church and most of those who do attend are largely Biblically illiterate and don't really know what he and those in his cult truly believe about who they call God and Jesus."



    On numerous occasions Keller has asked Christians who support Beck to publicly debate him on why they support a man whose cult is leading souls to hell He has also challenged Beck to debate him in any forum about his spiritual beliefs.



    "People like Barton, Hagee, James Robison and others will never allow themselves to be held accountable for their support of Beck since they know their support is about one thing, MONEY.


    As for Beck, like the real founder of his cult, Satan, he is nothing but a gutless coward. He is a very intelligent man who knows exactly what his cult believes.


    It is easy for him to simply dismiss someone like myself as a 'hater' or 'bigot,' rather than answer questions that would expose his heretical beliefs and destroy his multi-million dollar business."





    Keller claims, "The Bible says that in the last days even the very elect will be deceived. Beck is a great case study of that passage.



    Sadly, the most Christian leaders of this generation have failed to lead, worrying more about building their own Kingdom than God's, leaving a huge void for wolves of Satan like Beck to easily fill,

    a man skilled at speaking 'Christianese' and quoting from the Bible which he and those in his cult teach is a flawed and imperfect book, NOT the inspired, inerrant Word of God and representing Absolute Truth which Biblical Christians know it to be."




    In recently exposing his true motives to be a spiritual leader, even though to keep his scheme alive he can't directly advocate the beliefs of his cult, Beck tells his followers that it doesn't matter what church they go to, or what they choose to believe.



    Instead, Beck encourages them to do good works.


    Keller rails, "It DOES matter what you believe and that you go to a church that teaches the Bible as God's only revelation since the eternal souls of men are at stake!


    The Bible clearly states that man can't saved by good works but by faith in the Jesus of the Bible alone!"





    Keller concludes, "There is only one answer for this nation, the nation's of the world, and each person, and that is faith in the Jesus of the Bible.


    The efforts of Beck will succeed in continuing to make him tens of millions of dollars each year that he brags about tithing to his cult which is leading souls to hell with their false beliefs.


    However the lives of men and the spiritual course of this nation can only be permanently changed by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit through faith in the Jesus of the Bible." Keller reminds Christians that the Bible asks, " 'what fellowship does the light have with darkness?' The answer is NONE!"



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    Default Re: Preacher asks: Why are Christians Following a Cult Member Named Glenn Beck?

    That is a very good question.
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    Default Re: Preacher asks: Why are Christians Following a Cult Member Named Glenn Beck?

    Why? Because a lot of them are not Christians, and the few that are, have been robbed and deceived. Robbed of their armour and equipment, and left naked and defenceless. The Shepherd won't let His perish, but for sheep that want to stray and feed in foreign pastures life can can nasty and painful. We all do our own share of wandering....

    Keller is a bit off on his quote, it says "if it were possible" (italics in AV indicate words not in Greek text but inserted in English to render the sense), so something makes it impossible....the harpazo, they aren't there for the main deception. However, he is right about the dangers of deception and that some genuine will be taken in. Not to loss of salvation, that is impossible, but to loss of rewards (crowns, see Rev 3:11). The warnings to beware, to watch, are all through the NT. The Christians that get taken for rides by the multitude of charlatans abounding these days are Scripturally illiterate, for if they knew their Scripture they would at least have the seeds of Truth available for The Holy Spirit to make alive and powerful.

    Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
    Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

    Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
    Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
    Dan 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
    Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
    Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

    Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
    Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
    Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
    Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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    Re: if it were possible ... the "it were" was added by the KJV translators (but no others with the exception of the NIV) because the grammar of English construction in the 17th century required it. Micah is quite correct in that the Greek simply says "if possible". However, the construction of the entire sentence (the use of the words and the tense, mood, and voice) in the Greek makes it clear that this is an impossible possible. Perhaps the best exegesis of this phrase that I have ever read, though it takes time to read and digest, is by the venerable (1697-1771) theologian and preacher John Gill. His argument is worth reading:

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    1st. The argument from hence, in favor of the perseverance of the saints, very much depends on their being the elect of God, the impossibility of their deception being placed to this their character; which designs particular persons absolutely, and from eternity, chosen to everlasting life, who therefore cannot be so deceived as to be lost for ever, since their election is an eternal act, and therefore cannot be made void by a temporal one: it passed before the persons had done either good or evil; wherefore, as no good thing done by them was the cause of it, so no evil thing can annul or frustrate it; which strongly concludes the sure and certain salvation of all who are interested in it. But it is said[1] that by the elect we are to understand the choicest believers, or the persevering Christians. To which I reply, that it is certain that such who are truly converted, or are true believers, are persevering Christians, and such without dispute are the elect: but then the reason why they are, and are called the elect, is not because they are converted, are true believers, and persevering Christians; but, on the contrary, the reason why they are converted, become true believers, and so persevering Christians, is because they are elected. Conversion, faith, and perseverance, are not the causes or conditions, but fruits and effects of election: hence faith is styled the faith of God’s elect; (Titus 1:1; Acts 13:48.) and it is also said, that as many as were ordained unto eternal life believed; wherefore such cannot be finally deceived. Besides, to talk of the final seduction of a persevering Christian is a contradiction in terms: such an interpretation of the phrase must be absurd and impertinent; for who knows not, that a persevering Christian cannot be finally and totally deceived?

    2ndly When we say, that the elect of God cannot be deceived, we allow that they may be, and are deceived before conversion. This is one part of their character, whilst unregenerate, (Titus 3:8) foolish, disobedient, deceived, etc., yea, that they may be, and oftentimes are deceived after conversion; but then this is in part only, and not totally; in some lesser, and not in the greater matters of faith; not so as to let go their hold of Christ, the head, and quit the doctrine of salvation by him, or fall into what the apostle calls (2 Peter 2:1) damnable heresies. They may be seduced from the simplicity of the gospel, but not finally; for they shall be recovered out of the snare of the Devil, and not be left to perish in such deceivings. To this are excepted,

    1. That Christ[2] solemnly exhorts his disciples to use the greatest caution that they be not deceived; and, in the same chapter, to watch and pray, lest the hour of temptation should come suddenly on them; which, surely, he would not do, if he knew that they could not be deceived. To which I reply, that inasmuch as they were liable to a partial seduction, and for a time, though not to a total and final one, there was good reason why these exhortations should be given and taken. Besides, such cautions might be useful to quicken their diligence to search and read the Scriptures, and by them try the spirits, whether they were of God or no, and by their fruits, their doctrines, discover impostors, and avoid them. Hence these cautions should not be improved into arguments against the final perseverance of the saints, seeing they may be considered as means of it.

    2. That[3] Christ here declares, that by reason of the extreme affliction of these times, many should be offended, and their love was cold. But it should be observed, that supposing true believers are intended, love in them may wax cold when it is not lost, which was the case of the church at Ephesus; and so is no proof of the saints falling from grace. Besides, the many that shall be deceived, offended, and fall off from the doctrine of faith are not the same persons with, but distinguished from, the elect, who cannot be deceived.

    3rdly When we say, that it is impossible that the elect of God should be deceived, we mean not that it is impossible they should, considered in themselves, or if left to themselves, being, generally speaking, the foolish things of this world; or if left to that old Serpent, the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; or to false teachers, who lie in wait to deceive (1 Corinthians 1:27; Revelation 12:10; Ephesians 4:14): but we say it is impossible, considering the purposes and promises of God, the provisions of his grace, the security they have in the hands of Christ, and their presentation by the mighty power of God: and upon this account we judge, that their final and total deception is hero represented as impossible. But to this is excepted,[4] that the phrase εἰ δυνατόν ("if it were possible") denotes only a great difficulty in the performance of an act possible, (see Acts 20:16; Romans 12:18; Matthew 26:39), and also that it does not import what the event would be, but the vehemency of the endeavors should it respect the event, it is only with relation to the means here mentioned, being such as should prevail to seduce even Christians, were it possible for impostors, by lying signs and wonders, to deceive them who are invested with a power of working greater signs and wonders. To which I reply, the instances to prove that this phrase only denotes great difficulty, and not an absolute impossibility, are insufficient. The words of the apostle Paul (Acts 20:16), are conjectural; he knew not whether it was possible or no, that he could be at Jerusalem before Pentecost; of which sort, surely, the words of Christ here cannot be thought to be. The same apostle’s exhortation in Romans 12:18, supposes, that which is matter of fact, that it is impossible to live peaceably, with some men; and what followed upon our Lord’s petition in Matthew 26:39, shows that it was impossible that the cup should pass from him, considering the purpose of God, his covenant with him, and the salvation of his people. Moreover, should this phrase only import the vehemency of the endeavors of seducers, and not respect the event only with relation to the means here mentioned, great signs, and wonders, it follows, that if, notwithstanding the vehement endeavors of seducers, and the utmost they can do to deceive the saints; if, notwithstanding their showing great signs and wonders, they are not able to prevail over them, being invested with a power superior to them; it may be concluded and pronounced, that it is impossible they should be deceived either by them, or by any other, or by any other means; since these are the most effectual of any, being according to the working of Satan, with all power, and sign,, and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish: but says, the apostle, in the same place (2 Thessalonians 2:9,10,13), we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren, beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation; which is the saints grand security from a final and total deception, either by Satan or any of his emissaries.

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    [1] Whitby, p. 43; ed. 2.42; Remonstr. Coll. Hag. art. 1:p. 85; art. 5:p. 83; Limborch. p. 723.
    [2] Whitby, p. 439; ed. 2.427; Remonstr. Coll. Hag, art. 5:p. 82; Limborch, p. 723.
    [3] Whitby, p. 440; ed. 2.428; Remonstr. and Limborch, Ibid.
    [4] Whitby, p. 440, 441; ed. 2.429; Remonstr. and Limborch, Ibid.
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    Gill is good value. If I once again have an income that permits, I want to buy The Puritan Harddrive, it has all those old heavy artillery preachers. Enough reading to exhaust even the red-rimmed eyes of micah.

    Salvation is secure. The thing that I understand as a very prudent caution is that even though (or rather, also because...) we are sealed by The Holy Spirit and have Him indwelling, life can get rough if we go out of bounds. Life can get kind of rough even when we're perfectly within bounds, and we will be preserved even if we stray, but it is somehow more comforting to be afflicted for righteousness sake than being naughty.

    2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
    2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
    2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
    2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
    2Ti 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
    2Ti 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
    2Ti 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.

    Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
    Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
    Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
    Jud 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
    Jud 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

    AMEN!

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    I disagree that a Christian is not a Christian if they are a fan of Glenn Beck. At least in the past, back when my husband watched him every day we were not aware of his Mormon beliefs are his hidden agenda. When we found out we stopped watching. But we were genuine Christians when we watched his show.
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    Default Re: Preacher asks: Why are Christians Following a Cult Member Named Glenn Beck?

    That is the Christian response.

    The un-Christian response is to keep following such men after the truth about them is revealed, for example the people that insist Beck is a Christian. If he were, he would quit being a mormon and speak out about that false religion. Same for the folks that insist mother Theresa was Christian, when from her own writings and actions it is plain she too preached and lived a false Gospel. And again, people that insist Albert Schweitzer was a Christian, when it is plain from his writings he was a pantheist. And Rick Warren. Osteen. Bentley. Crouch. Hinn. Fosdick. Finney. We don't know if in some un-reported death-bed moment they repented, or if they will in the future, all we have is the legacy they left. If they did repent, they woud be grieving now at the ongoing damage their work does, and hope that genuine Christians would continue to warn about it.

    Christians can be deceived, hence all the warnings in Scripture. Christians also have the indwelling Holy Spirit, and should be in The Word enough for effective communication and instruction. The Lord guards His flock. They hear His voice and follow Him.

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