the Cry Hollywood 2012 (aka NAR movement event) and my special comment and concern on it

[billiefan2000]

as a HPN supporter, I found this online Faytene Grasseschi Shares The Heart of TheCRY Hollywood on Vimeo


and I thought at first: oh, it's a praying for hollywood event I may want to be involved with, until, I saw who is involved



•Cheryl Allen of the Pasadena House of Prayer


•James Gollof the Encounters Network

•Patricia King of XP Media (or as Chris of http://www.fightingforthefaith.com calls her on his radio show: the fractured fairy tales lady

•Stacey and Wesley Cambell of Revival Now! And Be A Hero (Stacey is a apologist for Todd Bentley, enough said)


•Shawn Bolz of Expression 58 (which is a NAR front group)



and Ted Baehr of Movie Guide :tsk


and decided not to be involved,


cause I gotta feeling, it will be lot of NAR madness and making HPN aka Hollywood Prayer Network supporters look crazy.

I would hope I am wrong, but when it comes to NAR related things, a lot of over-dramatic acting and "visions from god" will happen


to the CRY hollywood 2012 folks:, just do old fashioned praying for hollywood and hollywood celebs.

and drop the NAR nonsense also

u aint doing favors for folks who pray for folks in Hollywood and the Media, you are just going to complicate things for those who pray for folks in Hollywood who will think all those who pray for folks in Hollywood are like the NAR folks.




as someone who applauds christians praying for Influential folks


(see) Kat Dennings: | Hollywood Prayer Network

http://hollywoodprayernetwork.org/co...indsay-lohan-0



http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/p...e-r-visit.html

http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/p...yer-chain.html


I am a little worried cause the NAR movement is tryting to take over churches and ministries and make them become a joke and if you listen to Brannon Howse's radio show, http://www.worldviewweekend.com/brannon-howse/radio.php you can see why the NAR movement is dangerous



I know a few churches in my town of Omaha Nebraska that are a joke cause they are a big NAR cult movement sideshow.

same goes for once had some credibility radio host Sid Roth who will invite anyone who claims they have had visions (and wont even bother to do some discernment/checking on the guests on his radio/tv shows)

[billiefan2000]

info on Patricia King


False Prophet Patricia King: God is "releasing" Entrepreneur Gifts

False Prophet Patricia King and a New Pair of Shoes

Fighting for the Faith: Supernatural Childbirth in the Glory

Fighting for the Faith: Patricia King Bakes Her Brain in "The Glory"



The Museum of Idolatry: Patricia King Blames Critics for the Demise of the "Lakeland Revival"

Patricia King: Visions of Jesus | Slaughter of the Sheep


Patricia King: The Media Mountain Has to be Taken! | Slaughter of the Sheep



info on James Goll

http://www.alittleleaven.com/2009/03/demonic-joy.html


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1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


1 Timothy 4:1

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.


2 Timothy 4:3-4

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

[billiefan2000]

The Cry Hollywood (and how it may be crucial for Faytene’s future)
Posted on November 2, 2011 by Rick Hiebert



Faytene Grasseschi (formerly Faytene Kryskow) is taking her Cry rallies on the road to Hollywood (move over Bing and Bob )–and the event may have an impact that none of us may see at first.


Faytene herself may be at a crossroads.


A recent video may imply that she is considering the value of moderation, while The Cry Hollywood looks to carry on with her past dominionist impulses.



Barring a revival in Hollywood caused by Faytene’s rally, the most significant impact of The Cry Hollywood may perhaps wind up being how it affects Faytene’s future ministry itself.




I wonder this because of a video that the former Faytene Kryskow released through her friend Patricia King’s ministry three weeks ago, The Kiss of Heaven.



In this video, Faytene shows an amiable and down to earth side of herself in explaining how charismatic Christians should be very natural in how they seek to co-operate with God in ministering to others (especially when using the gifts of the Spirit).




If you watch the video you may, as I was, be struck with Faytene’s efforts to be just “naturally aupernatural” in what she does, if she follows her own counsel. Wise advice, in this instance.

“What does it mean to be ‘naturally supernatural’?” she says in the video.


“Well first of all it means don’t be weird, it means just be yourself. Love God with your whole heart and just let him leak out. It isn’t really rocket science…”



Developing a heart for the sick and those suffering in other ways, she adds, will develop a motivation in your heart to go out and minister and allow God to use you for His purposes.



She suggests that people pray in an interesting way:


“‘God, help me not be weird about it’…just be yourself. You know, God loves you. He loves how he created you. He loves everything about you, and it’s beautiful. All your little quirks, all the little things that you do, all your little things that you love, all the little things that you maybe don’t prefer, you know,

He’s made you that way. Be who He made you to be. Let His love, let His creativity, let His compassion, let His truth, let everything that He is flow through you as you connect to him as a source.”




“….People just like people they can relate to, people who are normal. And God wants to use you to influence people….

People don’t want to see the put off, they don’t want to see the fake face, they don’t want the mask….”




Very sound advice. But here is the kicker.



In her Canadian ministry Faytene, it’s fair to say, has become known as a hard-edged dominionist, who may be the sort that takes no prisoners




Christians have to take over the world for Jesus. When we control the press in Canada, it will be very different. And various other things that we have blogged here about.

I find it a bit difficult to put the lady who had her followers stab flags out over an audience and this lady, who is trying to be–very laudably I would add, moderate sounding–in the same body.


Her demeanor in this video doesn’t seem to match her theology and political ideas–as expressed in the past.



I’d like to ask Faytene whether she now thinks that some of the things she has said and done in the past were being “weird about it [her faith]?”




I can see the Faytene of this specific video getting along amiably with more liberal Christians in a way that the Faytene of The Cry rallies and her books, CDs and past sermons would not.



There’s something else that I have noticed as well.


The past messages that she has put on CD and sold at her website are no longer available, at the moment that I am writing my post.



Free downloads are promised in the future. [BDBO readers have been able to read several posts in which we have been able to quote these now shelved messages to good effect in explaining her mindset.]



Could Faytene have sat down recently and thought “You know, my dominionist ideas brought out something in me that I never really liked. I want to be kind and encouraging and I really need to have a theology that matches the kind of Christian that I now think is best to be.”



I have found things to respect and admire in Faytene’s ministry in the past.

If she has decided, quietly, to become more moderate–in her manner anyways, that may be something to add in the list.


But, before we get carried away, we do need to remember that a “kindler gentler Faytene” may also, sad to say, be a cynical selling point. I am hopeful, though.



But before I get carried away, I do need to mention The Cry Hollywood.



The Cry Hollywood is scheduled for March 5-17 in Hollywood. The first day will be a “prayer event” roughly akin to the Canadian Cry events, with follow-up meetings afterwards.


Christians are right to be interested in the arts and praying about it.

In addition to several of the “usual suspects”, conservative and Christian film industry observer, Ted Baehr is scheduled to participate.



In Faytene’s promotional video for the event, she explains why she started to think about Hollywood:



Faytene Grasseschi Shares The Heart of TheCRY Hollywood on Vimeo

“It was a couple years, uh months ago, excuse me that I felt the Lord begin to burden my heart and, you know, the Bible says that we are to pray for those in authority…and I began to think, who has more cultural authority than entertainers?”.



She adds that she hopes to operate in “a spirit for blessing…”



Faytene is being shrewder than in the past. Recall earlier this year how she helped with Patricia King’s plans to “take over Facebook and Twitter” (and Faytene’s own lack of Facebook manners?


Well, one hopes it is because they have learned a useful lesson, but Faytene is being more careful this time in what she says.



Which way is The Cry Hollywood going to go?

Will it genuinely be an effort to bless what God may be doing in Hollywood

or is it a step towards getting the dominionist mindset in front of Christian efforts to be salt and light in entertainment, taking the “mountain of entertainment and media”


If there is a dominionist aim here, they’ll be a lot shrewder about not letting the rest of us know.

The Cry Hollywood conference may have an impact on Faytene herself on two levels.




It may be a relaunch for Faytene. Instead of having to refer to her efforts in Canada–which may have petered out with the recent The Cry Ottawa rally–she can be the lady “who was behind the Cry Hollywood, which resulted in…”.


The Cry Hollywood may be worthwhile anyway, but if it helps Faytene herself to create a new “You thought I was American, but I just don’t mention that I was Canadian anymore…” persona, it may be useful to her.

Hollywood is a perfect stage to take an opening bow before an American audience.

[She plans to leave praying for the Canadian media and entertainment industry, which needs a Christian influence too, to someone else perhaps.]





What may be more of significance is how The Cry Hollwood–what is said and done there–will affect Faytene Grasseschi’s future ministry.



Will she continue to be the fire-breathing dominionist of old, or will The Cry Hollywood reflect a more mature and moderate way that Faytene Grasseschi does things, something that is never spelled out?

Faytene may think that she needs to cry “we will take Hollywood and subject it…” to rally support of her work. Readers will forgive me if I have a wait-and-see attitude, but I would like to be hopeful that she has matured enough in recent months to resist the temptation.




Could there be a post-dominionist Faytene?


The Cry Hollywood will either show this–or a Faytene who is much more cunning in how she presents herself.

I don’t think that, either way, she will spell it out explicitly to us. Pity.


http://www.benedictionblogson.com/20...ytenes-future/

[billiefan2000]

turns out even some on the left are speaking out on this NAR front event



while I dont agree with everything RWW says, they are right on some concerns of the NAR movement


Targeting Hollywood with Spiritual Warfare | Right Wing Watch



Targeting Hollywood with Spiritual Warfare
Submitted by Kyle Mantyla on January 26, 2012 - 11:46am



Over the last several years, we have seen spiritual warriors organizing public prayer rallies for the purpose of swinging elections, ending abortion, fighting marriage equality, converting Muslims, and even launching a presidential campaign ...

so perhaps it was only a matter of time before a similarly orchestrated prayer effort was launched for the purpose of targeting Hollywood and the entertainment industry:



quote:

TheCRY (Hollywood) is a prayer movement that gathers believers from every denomination, ethnic background and generation for a full day of prayer, fasting and abandoned worship.


Those who come to TheCRYs believe in the power of prayer, fasting and speaking the love of God over a city, nation or sphere.



Prayer leaders (aka: speakers), worship leaders (aka: musicians) and artists all come at their own expense and serve freely recognizing the day is a corporate offering to the Lord as we, with one heart, pray for Him to move in entertainment media.



The leadership of TheCRY Hollywood is made up of several seasoned leaders from the Hollywood area and beyond. These leaders will lead in prayer, worship and share inspiring sound bytes throughout the event that will direct the gathering back to prayer.

This sounds an awful lot like what Lou Engle does with The Call, which explains why Engle and various others in the spiritual warfare movement have all endorsed the effort:

TheCRY Hollywood has the blessing and endorsement of Lou Engle and TheCall but is it's own organization.


Targeting Hollywood with Spiritual Warfare | Right Wing Watch



btw:


as I have said before I gotta feeling,

it will be lot of NAR madness and making HPN aka Hollywood Prayer Network and other HPN groups (who are for the most part NAR neutral or anti-NAR movement) supporters look crazy.




those who pray for the media and folks in Hollywood who arent part of the NAR movement and believe NAR folks are dangerous and deceptive


need to speak out on the NAR'S attempts to hijack those who pray for the media and turn into another NAR front.

[billiefan2000]

btw:


watching the cry hollywood online

which started today (which I have some issues with cause of who is speaking) online


it is a good event so far. it has NAR folks but nothing has been said that has raised red flags.



will be keeping tabs and report more on this and mention any concerns or odd stuff.

[billiefan2000]

Apostasy Alert with Jackie Alnor
by Rapture Ready Radio in Religion





The Cry Hollywood is going on this weekend in Los Angeles - telling the Film Industry that God loves and blesses them.


These so-called Christians such as


Ted Baehr

Patricia King

Anne Jiminez

"Prophet" James Goll

and Matt Sorger


and IHOP's Julie Meyers

are pronouncing God's favor on this part of the Seven Mountains.


Also a continuing look at Charisma Magazine's anti-rapture, Kingdom-Now position. Christians must choose between the Kingdom to Come and the Kingdom Now - judgment looms whether they believe that or not.



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rapture...h-jackie-alnor