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    This also is from the site from which I took the article on how to help Harold Camping's followers. It is worth reading, as well.

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    What will Mr. Camping say on May 22?


    • There are already indicators that HC has a “contingency plan” for after May 21.
    • He may simply say (as he did after his 1994 prediction of Christ’s return) that his math was not quite right and that he will go back to studying the Scriptures to find the next date. However, he is quite definite about the prediction that Judgment Day will be coming on May 21, and that there is no “Plan B”.
    • His recent emphasis on Jonah and Nineveh may signal that he will be telling his listeners that he was not wrong, but that God has heard the many prayers that have been offered up and that, in His mercy, He has postponed judgment. However, HC will be very hard pressed to explain how the churches, all of which he believes have become apostate, have manifested repentance; let alone to demonstrate how this nation and other nations have demonstrated repentance.
    • One person close to Family Radio has suggested that HC will say something like this: “You see what has happened? The Bible is correct. Judgment day came, and just as God‟s mercy was granted to Nineveh, He has shed his abundant mercy upon us . . . We really do not need to know why, but it is obvious that Holy God has shown His mercy. He has validated what He told us in the Bible, validated it fully. We should thank Him, thank Him so deeply. Now it is all the more important, with these extra days He has given us to proclaim His Gospel in all the corners of the earth. So we need to sacrifice financially in every way to spread Family Radio still further and to strengthen this ministry.” This is probably close to exactly what will happen.
    • In any case, what will HC say to people who have maxed out their credit cards, sold their homes, and taken out all of their life savings to “spread the Gospel of Judgment Day that is sure to come on May 21, 2011?” Will this bother him at all? Is there a possibility that some of those who have “forsaken all to follow Christ” (actually, HC) and who wake up on May 22 only to find themselves destitute will commit suicide? Would that bother HC at all? Is that the mark of a Christian teacher?
    • And what will be the response in the broader society when media outlets and pundits poke fun at this “Bible teacher”, his followers, and his assured prediction of “what the Bible teaches”?
    • How many who become disillusioned with HC after May 21 will ever come to a church again, given that they have been taught and have parroted that “Satan now rules the churches”, and that “you cannot be saved if you are in the church”?
    • How many will continue to follow HC in spite of all of this?



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    Harold Camping Resurfaces After Failed Rapture, Christian News

    “It has been a really tough weekend,” Camping, 89, said in front of his Alameda, Calif., home to The San Francisco Chronicle Sunday afternoon.

    “I’m looking for answers,” he said, admitting that he was “flabbergasted.”

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    From that same article, Chris:
    "I'm looking for answers," Camping said, adding that meant frequent prayer and consultations with friends.
    "But now I have nothing else to say," he said, closing the door to his home. "I'll be back to work Monday and will say more then."
    Camping's followers will surely be listening.
    "I'm not as disappointed as everyone since I didn't fully believe him," said one, who asked to remain anonymous today because he worried he would be shunned for admitting he was "upset" with Camping.
    The middle-aged Oakland resident said he'd been listening to Camping since 1993, when he said the world would end in 1994.
    That was strike one, the man said. And this is strike two. Even so, he said, that doesn't mean the message is wrong.
    "I just know he's biblically sound," the man said. "I've never been one of these guys who think everything he says is true.
    "I don't think I am going to stop listening to him," the man added, heaving a deep sigh before continuing: "I don't know, I gotta listen to him on Monday, see what he says on the radio."
    I will not be at all surprised if the answer he "finds" is in this thread's OP.
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    Romans chapter 1.

    RO 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
    Harold Camping and all those who blindly follow him rather than God's truth are simply people who even though they know God's Truth they are suppressing it with their wickedness. God has made His Truth plain and there is NO ONE that will stand before God on the final day of judgement with an excuse.



    2TI 4:1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

    So we should not be surprised if Camping continues to make up more heresy and continue to have followers who are lost and without a clue. They are not searching for God's Truth and they are happy with the lies they have listened to and accepted.

    For NO One who is sincerely SEEKING God will miss out on finding the Truth and coming to Salvation.

    1CH 28:9 "And you, my son Solomon, acknowledge the God of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the LORD searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever. 10 Consider now, for the LORD has chosen you to build a temple as a sanctuary. Be strong and do the work."
    JER 29:10 This is what the LORD says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place. 11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. 13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. 14 I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile."
    There is no way anyone will miss out on finding salvation if they are Truly Seeking God with "ALL their heart".

    So I know those who have followed Camping but were truly seeking God will find God and salvation and those who were not looking for God they will get what they deserve.

    As for Harold Camping? He says he is a man of God and he should know this warning.

    2PE 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)-- 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority.

    Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord. 12 But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.

    2PE 2:13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
    Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed--an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey--a beast without speech--who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness.

    2PE 2:17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity--for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."
    Harold Campimg boasts he is a Prophet of God and knows the Bible. Then he should kn ow these scriptures and he will be without excuse on the day of judgement if he has ignored them.

    So I have prayed for all who were caught up in this and I have done what I can. Each person has a free will. In the end the choice is theirs.

    HEB 2:1 We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. 2 For if the message spoken by angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment, 3 how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. 4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

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    The ridicule has even reached over here to the EU. Weird...if it's anything to do with The Lord and His Word and His people, the popular thing to do is take the worst examples and mock them as being "christian". On the other hand, they are stunningly blind to Islam and take the best taqqiya as truth and ignore 1300 years of blood-smeared Islamic colonialism and barbarism. Great Delusion, warned The Lord. Yes, but which one, there are several flavours!

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    I thought about this at great length last night....


    ... and wrote about it.

    To Mr Camping:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfivefour
    In any case, what will HC say to people who have maxed out their credit cards, sold their homes, and taken out all of their life savings to “spread the Gospel of Judgment Day that is sure to come on May 21, 2011?” Will this bother him at all?
    Of course not. Camping has clearly suffered a seared conscience long since.
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    28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
    I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge;
    I will tell of all your deeds.


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    I feel sorry for young Christians who haven't realized the importance of praying and reading the Bible for themselves yet.

    I can't really understand trusting in someone else's beliefs to the point where you rid yourself and your family of worldly goods in order to follow another human being. At this point in history, we've had many examples of false prophets who have hurt and even killed other people. None of us is perfect, and I doubt that anyone understands 100% of the Bible.

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    The huffington report has a story, but I question the content.

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    He's already said it. He was wrong in his calculations. It will happen on Oct. 21, 2011. He had just "misjudged" the significance of May 21.

    Radio host says world's end actually coming in Oct - Yahoo! News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanne View Post
    I feel sorry for young Christians who haven't realized the importance of praying and reading the Bible for themselves yet.

    I can't really understand trusting in someone else's beliefs to the point where you rid yourself and your family of worldly goods in order to follow another human being. At this point in history, we've had many examples of false prophets who have hurt and even killed other people. None of us is perfect, and I doubt that anyone understands 100% of the Bible.
    I agree Suzanne I have met some people when I used to work who had become Christians but the fellowship group or Church they attended had not ground them in the basics like reading the Bible for themselves or how they should have discernment. Often they attended a place which had wrong teaching anyway. Obviously their leaders didn't want them to be discerning for themselves but to swallow the lies they were teaching.

    I can understand people not reading the Bible but I have to say how naive or gullible do you have to be to go that far without taking some personal research or study to make sure your leader is teaching you the Truth? I can't understand it.

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