radio show on Diplomatic Immunity pastor Rick Warren's new-age Daniel Plan on Tomorrow's Crosstalk

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Ingrid mentioned this on FB to me and others. will post archive of the show when it is on her site.



Rick Warren's Daniel Plan on Tomorrow's Crosstalk radio show

Jennifer Pekich attended the opener at Saddleback and will be reporting on Dr. Oz, Dr. Amen and Rick Warren's "sustainable" health community.

2pm Central

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side note:

for those who wonder why I called him a Diplomatic Immunity pastor, I mentioned this on RR also

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Warren has become what I call a diplomatic immunity christian

aka a christian leader that gets away with anything (thanks to a apathetic christian community)

Mark Driscoll and Rob Bell and Bill Hybels and Ed Stetzer and the Acts 29 Network and the Willow Creek Association are also diplomatic immunity christians



the wof crowd calls it: touch not my annointed.


I for one say we need to stop the diplomatic immunity attitude when it comes to questionable christian leaders like Warren

no one in the christian community is perfect,

but also NO ONE (this includes Warren and Hybels and others like them)

is above criticism or testing and using discernment on what it comes to what they say or promote.


that is why this is happening and why many churches are in a spirtual mess:


cause if the christian community was being taught and using discernment, guys like Warren wouldnt be getting a free pass and getting away with so much.

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A Look at Rick Warren’s New Age Health Plan on Thurs. Crosstalk
Posted by Ingrid Schlueter in Circus Church, Health, Mysticism, New Spirituality, Purpose Driven, Religion, Uncategorized on January 26th, 2011 | 3 responses


While Rick Warren is busily rolling out his “Daniel Plan” weight loss campaign to restore evangelicals to health and vitality,


Zondervan has announced the re-release in “enhanced” eBook form of the Purpose Driven Life.

Thursday’s Crosstalk will feature Jennifer Pekich who was there at Saddleback for the grand kick-off of the Daniel Plan, and she will be reporting on what Rick Warren,


Dr. Oz, (a daily practitioner of Transcendental Meditation) Dr. Amen and other assorted New Agers have for evangelicalism this time. Listen live at 2pm Central or to the archived show later here at the website.

(In light of Rick Warren’s featuring of Dr. Oz at Saddleback,

check out the Dr. Oz show with Deepak Chopra demonstrating eastern meditation techniques right out of paganism. Here is the news report about Warren’s plans to work with Dr. Oz.)



A Look at Rick Warren’s New Age Health Plan on Thurs. Crosstalk- The Crosstalk Blog

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RICK WARREN AND HIS DANIEL PLAN
By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Jan 27, 2011 in Current Issues, Rick Warren, Southern Baptist Convention

It’s simply an indisputable fact that, even now, a part of its spiritually lurid legacy of the upgraded sinfully ecumenical Emerging Church aka Emergent Church is its fueling the current fad of Protestant evangelicals practicing corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM) ala Living Spiritual Teacher and Quaker mystic Richard Foster—and his spiritual twin Dallas Willard.

So a large part of the online apologetics and discernment work being done here at Apprising Ministries has been covering the EC as it’s grown into a full blown neo-liberal cult—an Emerging Church 2.0—now pushing its new form of postmodern Progressive Christianity as “big tent” Emergence Christianity.

That’s why I’ve so often mentioned before that this spurious CSM—a rebirth of Roman Catholic Counter Reformation spirituality—under the quise of Spiritual Formation along with it’s main vehicle of Contemplative/Centering Prayer (CCP)—meditation in an altered state of consciousness—was a core doctrine from the evil inception of the Emerging Church.

You may also recall, from articles like Southern Baptist Soul Shaping Return To Religious Bondage and Saddleback Church, Rick Warren, And Spiritual Disciplines, that for quite some time now Apprising Ministries has been covering the influx of this Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism into the Southern Baptist Convention—allegedly the largest Protestant denomination in the United States.

Now you have the proper context to understand why Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren can be involved with the men he’s working with in his so-called Daniel Plan and virtually no one seems very concerned. Satan’s EC has been very successful in causing the younger sectors of evangelicalism to question virtually everything and opening them up for postmodern liberalism.

I’m glad that the Lord has raised up some women to cover this particular issue; there’s columnist Marsha West who said at AM’s sister site Christian Research Network in Rick Warren introduces “The Devil Plan”:

Pastor Rick Warren continues to work at “fulfilling people’s needs.” His latest endeavor is “The Daniel Plan,” a 52-week health and fitness program. Pastor Rick has decided it’s high time to lose 90 pounds. But there’s more to his health plan than meets the eye.

“The church says all of its more than 5,000 small groups will go through “The Daniel Plan,” which is part of Saddleback’s “Decade of Destiny,” a 10-year plan launching this month “to help individuals succeed and be who God designed them to be in every aspect in life.”” (Online source)

On January 15, over 6,000 people flocked to Saddleback’s main campus while thousands more watched online at the other Saddleback campuses.

It would appear that Pastor Warren has good intentions and that he genuinely wants his congregants to be the picture of health. He says that Christians should honor God with our bodies and he draws from Scripture to prove his point, 1 Cor. 6:19 and Rom. 12:1, for example. Who can possibly dispute that Warren’s plan to get the sheep shipshape is anything but admirable? (Online source)

AM also carried Personal Report On Saddleback Church Health & Fitness Seminar where Jennifer Pekich of Ponderings From Patmos: Biblical Truth For Modern Day Exiles offered her eyewitness testimony concerning what’s been going on, and the today Ingrid Schlueter tells us in A Look at Rick Warren’s New Age Health Plan:

While Rick Warren is busily rolling out his “Daniel Plan” weight loss campaign to restore evangelicals to health and vitality,


Zondervan has announced the re-release in “enhanced” eBook form of the Purpose Driven Life.


Thursday’s Crosstalk will feature Jennifer Pekich who was there at Saddleback for the grand kick-off of the Daniel Plan, and she will be reporting on what Rick Warren, Dr. Oz,

(a daily practitioner of Transcendental Meditation) Dr. Amen and other assorted New Agers have for evangelicalism this time.

Listen live at 2pm Central or to the archived show later here at the website. (Online source)




RICK WARREN AND HIS DANIEL PLAN : Apprising Ministries

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January 27, 2011
Rick Warren, Dr. Oz, and the Dangers of the Daniel Plan
Host: Ingrid Schlueter
Guest: Jennifer Pekich
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Jennifer Pekich is a writer, researcher and stay at home mother who has been married for 19 years. She describes herself as a born-again believer in Jesus Christ who is committed to protecting and defending the Christian faith. Greatly inspired by 1 Peter 3:15, her entering the “blogosphere” was born out of her family’s personal experience of leaving a church due to false teaching.

Ingrid opens this edition of Crosstalk describing what we’ve seen up until recently from Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven Movement. With the help of his Purpose Driven books, Warren has convinced many Christians to initiate radical changes to the church ranging from thematic preaching and rock music to a more corporate style of church leadership.

Warren’s latest project is a 52 week health and fitness program known as “The Daniel Plan”. But one must wonder what Pastor Warren is up to when in promoting the plan, he relies on individuals such as Daniel Amen, Mark Hyman and Mehmet Oz.

Why should these men cause “red flags” to come up for Christians? Jennifer attended the Daniel Plan kick-off gathering on January 15. From her notes she shares how from Kundalini Yoga to Transcendental Meditation, these men are steeped in Eastern mysticism and the occult. In addition, through it all, numerous U.N. buzz-phrases could be heard; phrases such as "sustainable living", :smart growth", "public-private partnerships" and more.

Are Rick Warren and his associates attempting to restructure the church and society by warming Christians up to a fanciful sounding global plan? Decide for yourself when you review this edition of Crosstalk.



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Rick Warren’s recipe for a witch’s brew


Published January 28th, 2011 by Marsha West in Ingrid Schlueter, Mysticism, New Age, Paganism, Rick Warren


Listen to Ingrid Schlueter’s interview with Jennifer Pekich. Jennifer attended Rick Warren’s “The Daniel Plan” kick-off gathering on January 15.

From her notes she shares how from Kundalini Yoga to Transcendental Meditation, these men are steeped in Eastern mysticism and the occult.


In addition, through it all, numerous U.N. buzz-phrases could be heard; phrases such as “sustainable living”, “smart growth”,

“public-private partnerships” and more. Are Rick Warren and his associates attempting to restructure the church and society by warming Christians up to a fanciful sounding global plan? Decide for yourself when you review this edition of Crosstalk.


Rick Warren’s recipe for a witch’s brew at Christian Research Net

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related:


Dr. Oz and Deepak show how to meditate to lose weight at Christian Research Net

Dr. Oz and Deepak show how to meditate to lose weight
Published January 29th, 2011 by Marsha West in Buddhism, Hinduism, Mantra Meditation, Paganism


(btw: still no comment from the "research team" or members at Saddleback Church or from Rick warren on Dr. Oz 's support of newager Deepak Chopra