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    I'm posting this in the "Apostasy" section because, I suppose, I'm so disgusted with the continual liberal leaps the leaders of my denomination -- The United Methodist Church -- continue to try to make, in spite of the overall center-right stance of the majority of United Methodists. (Yeah, it should just be "right," but "center-right" is still better than it could otherwise be).

    Anyway, my father is a now-retired UMC minister, who remains active in the church. He sent me this VERY UPSETTING excerpt from the United Methodist Book of Discipline:

    "Health care is a basic human right. Providing the care needed to maintain health, prevent disease, and restore health after injury or illness is a responsibility each person owes others and government owes to all, a responsibility government ignores at its peril. Like police and fire protection, health care is best funded through the government's ability to tax each person equitably and directly fund the provider entities. We believe it is a governmental responsibility to provide all citizens with health care." (The United Methodist Church Book of Discipline, Paragraph 162; 2008)


    MY take is that it sounds like "Socialism-R-Us."

    Excuse me while I retch...





    OK, now that THAT is done with, allow me to counter the authors of that left-wing claptrap with these pithy bits of wisdom:


    “The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.” --- Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005

    “What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.” --- Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005

    "The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" -- Lady Margaret Thatcher

    "We can’t socialize the doctors without socializing the patients..." -- President Ronald W. Reagan

    "We hear a constant clamor for rights, rights, always rights, but so little about responsibility, and we have forgotten God." -- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." - President Thomas Jefferson

    "Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets." -- President Ronald Reagan

    "Most of the work of government does not need to be done. And, if you can remember that, if we could all remember that, this country would be better off." -- Lyn Nofziger, White House adviser during the Reagan administration

    "A government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth." -- President Ronald Reagan

    "If we're to renew America, we must stop trying to homogenize it." -- President Ronald Reagan

    "Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal. It was Mussolini's success in Italy, with his government-directed economy, that led the early New Dealers to say 'But Mussolini keeps the trains running on time.'" -- California Governor Ronald Reagan, Time Magazine, May 17, 1976

    "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." -- President Ronald Reagan

    "The power to tax is the power to destroy." -- John Marshall, Fourth Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court

    "Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." -- California Governor Ronald W. Reagan, December 11, 1972


    And, for those who still think that the current President's proposed socialized-medicine program is the right way to go, consider the words of one of the men who is VERY CLOSELY advising the President on this matter:

    [Health care system services] "...should not be guaranteed..." [to anyone whose circumstances or conditions "prevent them] from being or becoming participating citizens." -- Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Health Care "Czar" for President Obama, and brother of Obama Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, quoted in The Hastings Center Report, November-December 1996

    "Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously..." -- Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Health Care "Czar" for President Obama, and brother of Obama Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2009



    Dear Holy Father God, please save us all from this abomination, or else PLEASE take us all Home!


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    Your all probally tired of hearing me, but on Fox News today, They said the congress has selected a commitee to go over the news bill, but there is about 207 pages to read and no one on the commitee has read it yet.
    IN JESUS NAME,
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    McKay,

    Sooo sorry about your religion....

    Thank God that you know different.....

    I still don't understand why Americans think healthcare is a basic right...

    To me, it's a priviledge.....

    Personally I think we are skipping socialism,and moving into Communism...

    You are very wise,and that wisdom came from God.....

    Do you ever think you will change churches?

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