FFTF radio show on the Laodicean Church and what is wrong with christianity in america

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 12:26 PM

This Episode is Brought to You by The Church at Laodicea
May 29th, 2009

• This Episode is Brought to You by The Church at Laodicea

http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2...-laodicea.html

mentioned during the show:

Jane Dratz (the relevance obsessed columnist at Christian Post ) tells how to use Hannah Montana to witness to lost souls

(see) http://www.christianpost.com/article...ana/index.html

this video

and:

http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2...vin-venti.html

Contestant #3 in the Worst Easter Sermon of 2009, Scott Hodge and Livin' Venti

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 12:31 PM

also mentioned:

This Video Was Produced by a "Christian Church" in Ohio (seeker madness and shame

This Video Was Produced by a "Christian Church" in Ohio (seeker madness and shame

BTW:

Momentum Church in Ohio listed as a member of the willow creek assocation on the wca website

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 01:12 PM

ironic thing that pastor scott hodge says

about the church in america suffering from idolatry

well, I agree with Hodge the churches in america have a idolatry problem.

but scott should know the idolatry problem in america's churches

is the seeker-sensitive obsession

and the pastors who are refusing to preach the gospel

(video and open letter to Scott Hodge and his "church"

**LostNoMore4** · June-2nd-2009, 04:20 PM

I told my mom last night about one of the Megachurches in NE that gets their youth group to perform Beyonce/Britney/Madonna songs instead of singing hymns, and she was floored.

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by LostNoMore4

I told my mom last night about one of the Megachurches in NE that gets their youth group to perform Beyonce/Britney/Madonna songs instead of singing hymns, and she was floored.

NE as in Nebraska

or NE as in Northeast USA

**LostNoMore4** · June-2nd-2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

NE as in Nebraska

or NE as in Northeast USA

Nebraska

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by LostNoMore4

Nebraska

what is the name of the church and city

cause if it one in Omaha area,

I wouldnt (a) be surprised

and (b) it is likely a willow creek assocation church

**LostNoMore4** · June-2nd-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

what is the name of the church and city

cause if it one in Omaha area,

I wouldnt (a) be surprised

and (b) it is likely a willow creek assocation church

Granger Community Church - is this in NE? On their web site, they show a video of a youth group performing a Beyonce routine.

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by LostNoMore4

Granger Community Church - is this in NE? On their web site, they show a video of a youth group performing a Beyonce routine.

no.

Granger Community Church is in Indiana

and Granger BTW is a willow creek assocation church

BTW:

Granger Community Church in Indiana

IMO is the poster child for the Laodicean church

**LostNoMore4** · June-2nd-2009, 07:06 PM

Wow - Willow Creek Association has some big roots, it seems...not just in Omaha.

I really would like to know who are the (major)funders of this...especially with alot of the big names like Hybel, Ramsey, Osteen, etc involved. I mean it doesn't look like some project drawn up by a couple of guys b/c they thought it's some get-rich-quick-scheme et al...it seems deeper than this.

**billiefan2000** · June-2nd-2009, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by LostNoMore4

Wow - Willow Creek Association has some big roots, it seems...not just in Omaha.

I really would like to know who are the (major)funders of this...

especially with alot of the big names like Hybels, Ramsey, Osteen, etc involved.

I mean it doesn't look like some project drawn up by a couple of guys b/c they thought it's some get-rich-quick-scheme et al...it seems deeper than this.

I dont know who are the major funders of this other than the churches

that are assocatied with willow creek assocation

the wca has influence and churches in all 50 states and in some places,

the wca churches are more seeker-obsessed than in other places with wca churches

**LostNoMore4** · June-2nd-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

I dont know who are the major funders of this other than the churches

that are assocatied with willow creek assocation

the wca has influence and churches in all 50 states and in some places,

the wca churches are more seeker-obsessed than in other places with wca churches

The reason why I was wondering b/c for example, believe it or not, David Rockefeller has funded some of the liberal denominations in this country - one of them being that liberal Union Seminary College in NYC. I believe he's also behind the World Council of Churches as well.

In Hal Lindsey's latest broadcast, he talked about how some of the world's weathiest elite were meeting to talk about population control - Rockefeller, along with Bill Gates, Oprah, and Ted Turner, attended this meeting. And it got me thinking when I was watching this broadcast over if Rockefeller was involved in other activities as well.

So yeah - was wondering if there were any potentially "big" names behind it.

Thanks for all the info about Willow Creek on this forum! This is something to definitely WARN the masses over!